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2013/2014 TRF ANTE-POST BETTING COMPETITION

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    [b:3n21eoum]2013/2014 TRF ANTE-POST BETTING COMPETITION[/b:3n21eoum]

    Competition starts TODAY and ends DERBY DAY

    The “8 Compulsory races” are 4 Flat Classics that even most die hard Jumps fans are interested in and 4 jumps races being three from the Cheltenham Festival plus the Grand National, so ditto for Flat fans. The first “Compulsory race” is not until March; and with many “Other races” for TRFers to choose from – there is plenty of time for more people to join in the competition.

    So whether you like to bet mainly in Big Handicaps, mainly Grade 1’s, mainly Flat, mainly Jumps or a mixture – you can in this competition.

    WINNING PRIZE:
    Winner gets a print of Frankel signed by Sir Henry Cecil, very generously donated by Hammy.

    STAKES:
    TRFers may choose in each race whether to have:

    2 points win on ONE horse
    or
    1 point each way on ONE horse
    (All each way bets to be scored to ¼ odds)
    or
    1 point win bets on TWO horses
    (You may choose to place these two bets at different times)

    That way everyone is staking the same points per race.

    Unless otherwise stated at time of selection – bets will be counted as 1 point win bets. This is to stop anyone putting a selection up as a 1 point bet and then claiming it as a 2 point bet after seeing the price taken shorten considerably!

    You may select just one 1 point bet if you wish.

    Anyone wishing to have two 1 point win bets on the same horse in the same race can do so. eg 1 point win bet @ 20/1 and another 1 point win bet @ 12/1 a month later.

    WHEN:
    Selections MUST be placed BEFORE final declarations day (ie Ante-Post). I realise declarations are usually only known at 11:00 am but for this competition bets must be in by 12:00am midnight the day before declarations come out.

    COMPULSORY RACES:
    Participants MUST make a selection/s in ALL 8 Compulsory races (4 flat and 4 jumps), anyone failing to do so will be counted as losing bet/s. ie -2 points for every no bet race.

    Participants are given ONE EXTRA 2 points win bet and ONE EXTRA 1 point each way bet to be used on any of the 8 Compulsory races; to do as you see fit. eg You may want to use one/them if a non-runner means you are without a bet. Or as an additional bet/s in a race. These Extra Bets are optional.

    8 Compulsory races:
    Champion Hurdle
    World Hurdle
    Cheltenham Gold Cup
    Grand National
    2000 Guineas
    1000 Guineas
    Oaks
    Derby

    In addition, participants MUST make selection/s in AT LEAST 15 and NO MORE THAN 25 of the Other named races. Again, anyone not selecting horse/s for at least 15 of these races will be treated as losing bets. eg If only selecting in 12 of the Other races you will lose an additional 6 points (15 – 12 = 3 X 2 points = 6) from your over all +/- Score.

    For anyone selecting more than 25 “Other Races” only the first 25 races selected will count towards your total score.

    Any bet in a race not quoted above or below will not be counted.

    Participants have a total of between 50 and 70 points to stake (2 points per bet).

    OTHER RACES (At least 15 but no more than 25 of the races below):
    Queen Anne
    King Stand
    St James’s Palace (3yo colts)
    Hunt Cup (handicap)
    Prince Of Wales
    Ascot Gold Cup
    Coronation (3yo fillies)
    Wokingham Handicap
    Diamond Jubilee
    Northumberland Plate Handicap
    Eclipse
    Bunbury Cup (handicap)
    Falmouth (fillies & mares)
    July Cup
    King George
    Sussex
    Stewards Cup (handicap)
    Nassau (fillies & mares)
    International
    Ebor (handicap)
    Yorkshire Oaks (fillies & mares)
    Nunthorpe
    Ayr Gold Cup (handicap)
    Spring Cup
    St Leger
    Cesarewitch (handicap)
    Arc De Triomphe
    Sun Chariot (fillies and mares)
    Cheveley Park (2yo fillies)
    Cambridgeshire (handicap)
    Dewhurst (2yo colts)
    Queen Elizabeth II
    Champion Stakes
    November Handicap

    Paddy Power Gold Cup Handicap Chase
    Racing Post Handicap Hurdle
    Betfair Chase
    Fighting Fifth Hurdle
    Hennessey Gold Cup Handicap Chase
    Tingle Creek Chase
    Long Walk Hurdle
    King George VI Chase
    Christmas Hurdle
    Welsh National Handicap Chase
    Victor Chandler Handicap Chase
    Paul Stewart Charity Challenge Cup Handicap Chase
    Ascot Chase
    Betfair Handicap Hurdle
    Racing Plus Handicap Chase
    Imperial Cup Handicap Hurdle
    Supreme Novices Hurdle
    Arkle Novices Chase
    Festival Trophy Handicap Chase
    Neptune Novices Hurdle
    RSA Novices Chase
    Queen Mother Chase
    Byrne Group Plate Handicap Chase
    Coral Cup Handicap Hurdle
    Jewson Novices Chase
    Ryanair Chase
    Pertemps Handicap Hurdle
    Triumph Juvenile Hurdle
    Spa Novices Hurdle
    County Handicap Hurdle
    Grand Annual Handicap Chase
    Liverpool Hurdle
    Betfred Bowl Chase
    Topham Handicap Chase
    Melling Chase
    Aintree Hurdle
    Scottish Grand National Handicap Chase
    Bet365 Gold Cup Handicap Chase

    Lincoln Handicap
    Chester Cup (handicap)
    Lockinge
    Coronation Cup

    NON RUNNERS:
    Any non-runner is counted as a losing bet and is counted towards your total.

    If the non-runner is a 1 point win bet you still have another 1 point win bet to play with anyway.

    If the non-runner is a 2 point win bet or 1 point each way bet lost – then you may bet again, but if choosing to do so it is counted as two races towards your total (ie 4 points are lost not just 2).

    If the non-runner is in one of the 8 Compulsory Races then any further bet will be subtracted from the number of bets possible in the Other Races section. eg “no more than 25 Other races” becomes no more than 24. (Also see Extra races).

    BOOKMAKERS:
    Bets must be quoted from one of 10 Bookmakers:
    Bet 365, Skybet, Boylesports, Sportingbet, BetVictor, Paddy Power, Stan James, Ladbrokes, Corals, William Hills.

    No bets on betting exchanges or obscure bookmakers.

    Any bet needs to be quoted on ODDSCHECKER by one of 10 bookmakers. So sorry, ringing up for a price will not be allowed, as they can not be checked.

    SCORING / HOW TO WRITE BETS UP / QUOTING PREVIOUS BETS:
    Up to you but… When putting your bets up it would make it easier to score if using the QUOTE button to quote ALL previous bets (at least up to the next Leaderboard Update). Also, it would be helpful if keeping your own scores by putting a total in with your bet.

    Updates (leaderboard) will only be done periodically, at relevant times. But am sure those picking good winners and doing well – will let us all know.

    EDITING:
    Strictly NO EDITING, even if it is to change your total. If you’ve made a mistake in writing just “quote” it and say why you want it changed.

    REMINDER:
    Players need to select for all 8 Compulsory Races AND at least 15 (no more than 25) from the Other Races list.

    TIE BREAK:
    In the event of a tie at the end of the competition the one with the biggest priced winner wins. If it’s the same – the one with the second biggest price wins. If same – the third… etc.

    Good Luck All.

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    #442364
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    King Stand Stakes:
    Swiss Spirit 1 point each way @ 12/1 (Paddy Power)

    Total -2

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    #442365
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    King Stand Stakes:
    Swiss Spirit 1 point each way @ 12/1 (Paddy Power)

    Total -2

    Gold Cup:
    Estimate 1 point win @ 8/1 (Boyle)

    Total -3

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    #442371
    Avatar photoGingertipster
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    As the 6/1 Orfevre in the Arc is still available Nathan, I will reserve it for you if wanted?

    Very sorry Danny, the 11/1 is no longer there for Simenon, will reserve you 10/1 if still wanted?

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    #442375
    Avatar photoThe Ante-Post King
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    TAPK

    legend of the Ante-Post Kingdom selects.-

    Champion Hurdle,.- My Tent or Yours

    6/1 freely available!
    I think the price has collapsed in reality and one poor effort will see his price drift out to 10/1 but because he’s the biggest certainty of the whole year I’m putting him up now hoping he goes 3/1 after 1 run!

    2 Points win. 6/1 William Hills.

    Gold Cup,.- Boston Bob

    I still think he has to go Gold cup route and 25/1 is fair,if he does turn up on the day I cant see how this fellows profile will allow him to go off at these sort of prices!

    1 Point Win 25/1 Bet365

    Gold Cup,.- First Lieutenant

    I wont be giving up with this fellow,some good judges think this was his year had he ran but I believe he’ll be just as good next year,if not better,he still has scope for a bit more improvement imo.

    1 Point Win 16/1 Stan James.

    2000gns,.- Stubbs

    I’ve seen enough already to suggest this fellow has a proper 2000Gns profile,after he wins the Coventry the 20/1 freely available now will dissapear!

    1 Point e/w 20/1 William Hills

    plus

    2 points Win and 1 point e/w according to rules at 20/1 William Hills

    ! Thats me won the competition already then,I’ll give the ‘Frankel’ Pic to Jonibake! :lol:

    -10 Points

    #442377
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    I knew you would not be able to resist Gord. :lol:

    Good on you for joining in.
    Thumbs up! :P

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    #442378
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    King Stand Stakes:
    Swiss Spirit 1 point each way @ 12/1 (Paddy Power)

    Total -2

    Gold Cup:
    Estimate 1 point win @ 8/1 (Boyle)

    Total -3

    Cheltenham Gold Cup:
    Sir Des Champs 1 point win @ 8/1 (WH)
    Boston Bob 1 point win @ 25/1 (B365)

    Total -5

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    #442379
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    2000gns,.- Stubbs

    I’ve seen enough already to suggest this fellow has a proper 2000Gns profile,after he wins the Coventry the 20/1 freely available now will dissapear!

    1 Point e/w 20/1 William Hills

    plus

    2 points Win and 1 point e/w according to rules at 20/1 William Hills

    ! Thats me won the competition already then,I’ll give the ‘Frankel’ Pic to Jonibake! :lol:

    Don’t know about "freely available" Gord, Stubbs is only 20/1 with William Hill, as low as 12/1 elsewhere. Using both "Extra bets" on one horse this early; interesting tactics.

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    #442384
    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Arc
    Orfevre 6/1
    bet365, coral
    2pts win

    Blackbeard to conquer the World

    #442401
    Hammy
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    Half of that has gone completely over my head Ginge, but c’est la vie, here goes nothing. :D

    St James Palace Stakes
    1 point EW

    Jammy Guest 66/1 BET365

    #442416
    TomBarkley87
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    Suppose it would be pretty rude of me not to show my face around here :)

    Chatterbox

    Arkle 1pt e/w@33/1 with Boylesports

    Un Atout

    Jewson 2pt win@16/1 with Paddy Power

    My Tent Or Yours

    Champion Hurdle 2pt win@6/1 with various

    -6

    #442417
    TomBarkley87
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    I’d just like to say fair to Ginge for getting this together and putting it on. I was originally a bit sceptical about the competition and thought it sounded like it was just being billed as ‘Gord v Ginge’ :lol: Credit where it’s due though Mark it looks like a lot of thought’s gone into this and I hope it doesn’t slip to the back of peoples’ minds as it deserves to be successful. Good stuff!

    #442423
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    I’d just like to say fair to Ginge for getting this together and putting it on. I was originally a bit sceptical about the competition and thought it sounded like it was just being billed as ‘Gord v Ginge’ :lol: Credit where it’s due though Mark it looks like a lot of thought’s gone into this and I hope it doesn’t slip to the back of peoples’ minds as it deserves to be successful. Good stuff!

    Thanks Boz, it’s nice to be appreciated now and again. :lol:

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    #442426
    Avatar photoDanny
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    Ascot Gold Cup

    Simenon

    1pt E.W 10/1 ‘Corals’

    St James Palace

    Magician

    2pts WIN + Extra 2pts WIN ‘bet 365’

    World Hurdle

    Zarkandar

    2pts WIN ‘Lads’

    -8

    #442427
    Avatar photoDanny
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    Ascot Gold Cup

    Simenon

    1pt E.W 10/1 ‘Corals’

    St James Palace

    Magician

    2pts WIN + Extra 2pts WIN Evens ‘bet 365’

    World Hurdle

    Zarkandar

    2pts WIN 8/1 ‘Lads’

    #442428
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    I was originally a bit sceptical about the competition and thought it sounded like it was just being billed as ‘Gord v Ginge’ :lol:

    [b:260gf5yj]YOU MEAN IT’S NOT [/color:260gf5yj][/b:260gf5yj] :shock:

    #442429
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    I was originally a bit sceptical about the competition and thought it sounded like it was just being billed as ‘Gord v Ginge’ :lol:

    [b:11kd2b80]YOU MEAN IT’S NOT [/color:11kd2b80][/b:11kd2b80] :shock:

    Have you ever wondered, why bother?
    The more you do for people – the more they find fault.

    Let’s stop this xxxxxxx competition right now! I am not doing this thing if all it’s xxxxxxx seen as is a xxxxxxx duel!

    I’ve thought for a while would be good for TRF to have an ante-post competition, but clearly I am wrong.

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