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March 17, 2009 at 16:41 #216994
If he repeated even this year’s Gold Cup form, the opposition would be crossing the final fence as Denman crossed the winning line.
Connections should go for the Grande Steeplechase – it will be the easiest £280K pick-up in history.
March 17, 2009 at 16:51 #216995If he repeated even this year’s Gold Cup form, the opposition would be crossing the final fence as Denman crossed the winning line.
Connections should go for the Grande Steeplechase – it will be the easiest £280K pick-up in history.
I hope you’re right – would be great to see more target the race
March 17, 2009 at 17:52 #217009Butler’s Cabin has always been AP’s intended ride and Jonjo’s representative. Nice to see him in better form of late as last year he just started coming right about this time. His festival run was quite encouraging.
ED finished very one paced in the Gold Cup there has always been severe doubts about him getting 4m4f anyway.
I believe they are going to run him again somewhere, but couldn’t tell you where.
March 17, 2009 at 18:36 #217013Betfair Bowl looks the ideal race for ED.
Mark
Value Is EverythingMarch 17, 2009 at 19:07 #217016Betfair Bowl looks the ideal race for ED.
Mark
Agreed, Ginge
The race is his to lose if he turns up.
I don’t think anyone would begrudge him another big race success. I’d love to see him saunter home like he did in 2007.
Quite interesting that he’s also entered in the Bet365 Gold Cup. I know connections were giving it serious consideration a couple of years ago.
March 17, 2009 at 20:23 #217027Abbeybraney for me…. 10-3 at the moment, possibly anything upto 10-13 on the day will be a nice weight. He would be recieving 15lbs from Notre Pere (who beat him by a head at level weights at Leopardstown in December) and have no doubts the extra distance can work in his favour also.
Dont know who told me this (was a long time ago) but a horse who is more at home over two and a half miles often gets these marathon trips better than the three milers. Not something I would swear by at any means but employed that theory to Drumconvis at cheltenham this year and worked a treat.March 17, 2009 at 22:37 #217049Abbeybraney for me…. 10-3 at the moment, possibly anything upto 10-13 on the day will be a nice weight. He would be recieving 15lbs from Notre Pere (who beat him by a head at level weights at Leopardstown in December) and have no doubts the extra distance can work in his favour also.
Dont know who told me this (was a long time ago) but a horse who is more at home over two and a half miles often gets these marathon trips better than the three milers. Not something I would swear by at any means but employed that theory to Drumconvis at cheltenham this year and worked a treat.Abbeybraney is a NR has been for some time.
March 17, 2009 at 22:49 #217054Sh*t…… Back to square one then.
March 18, 2009 at 00:20 #217078Sounds as if Garde Champetre isn’t running.
March 18, 2009 at 01:12 #217096Yes so it seems. What a shame, and a costly one for me too.
March 18, 2009 at 01:31 #217100I’m finding it difficult to ignore Darkness completely; my head says he hasn’t got a chance but he ticks an awful lot of boxes ..other than he won’t stay and can’t jump.
March 18, 2009 at 02:02 #217113Just to correct an earlier post, the weights will rise to 11-10, not 11-12, hence a 7lbs rise if Nozic ends up topweight, or 8lbs if it’s Cloudy Lane.
Where did anyone hear about Garde Champetre being an NR?March 18, 2009 at 02:20 #217121FWIW my 5 against the field this year are.
Brooklyn Brownie 66/1
Tuned up with an easy win at Wetherby the other day which should leave him spot on. Handled the fences Ok in the Sefton. Stamina unknown beyond 3m1f but breeding encouraging. Well overpriced.Himalyan Trail 40-1
Won last year’s Midlands National. Ran well in the Beecher this Autumn on unsuitably soft ground. Didn’t show much in a handicap hurdle at Naas latest but trainer has won the race before with Monty’s Pass and will have him ready. A little 40-1 left, well worth taking.Kilbeggan Blade 33-1
Winning form over extreme trips at Sandown. Campaigned mostly over hurdles this season presumably to protect his mark. Overpriced.I’ve also backed Garde Champetre at 40-1 pre Cheltenham (some rumours he doesn’t run?) 25-1 now is about right.
I also backed Butler’s Cabin at 16-1 to smaller stakes, current 12-1 about right.March 18, 2009 at 03:24 #217132hey carvs, I believe totesport have removed him from their running list. To be confirmed tomorrow.
Moehat, add ‘doesn’t perform in large fields’ to your profile on darknessMarch 18, 2009 at 17:11 #217180Garde Champetre wasn’t amongst the list of acceptors. Snoopy Loopy is the current top weight with 11-10. 88 left in, those originally on 9-12 look fairly sure to get a run.
March 18, 2009 at 17:29 #217186Bit concerned that I haven’t backed Himalayan Trail but pleased with my bets so far; still concerned that horses seems to need a bit of class to win these days, and found myseld doubling the amount that I was going to put on State of Play so just rolled with it; surprised that Roll Along is still in it but until the weights went up thought he was ideal for the race. Also concerned that Hot Weld pulled up quite a few times before he won the Scottish National and worried that ferdy Murphy is doing a Ferdy Murphy.Think it’s time Snoopy Loopy was given a holiday; he’s done well for connections this year and deserves it.
March 18, 2009 at 20:08 #217211Was reading Mouse Morris on teletext last night and he was saying that he his realy confident about war of attrition and reckons that he reckons war of attrition is well in at the weights, which is what I was thinking myself. Even if he ends up carrying quite a big weight he looks to me to be the type who is much better than his rating, and he is very exciting in the national IMO.
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