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  • #1660043
    FinalFurlong91
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    Henry longfellow runs today in a group 2

    Hoping to see him bolt in as it looks a pretty weak race

    The race has been won by classic winners gleneagles, Churchill, Anthony van dyck and mac swiney in the last 10 years

    We also get to see London City in the opening race on the card

    By justify out of the top class winter

    He has entries in all the usuals, dewhurst, national stakes etc

    #1660162
    FinalFurlong91
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    Dewhurst named as the target for Henry longfellow

    Always a good pointer to this

    #1661504
    FinalFurlong91
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    Henry longfellow 10/1

    Seems a very fair price to me

    City of troy far short to even consider backing, he’s priced up as though he’s already romped home from a good horse in the national stakes

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    If City Of Troy beats Bucanero Fuerte by a comfortable two lengths or more in the National Stakes, I predict he will be top-priced 6/4 for this straight after the race and will go into Winter quarters circa Even money.

    I’m not saying that’s the correct price, but I am saying this is what will happen.

    I’ve got 20/1 Henry Longfellow to half the stake I’ve got on City Of Troy (at 12/1), so either would do me.

    “The Longfellow” has certainly done nothing wrong so far.

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    Dubawi – Minding (Galileo)
    Henry Longfellow has all the credentials. You’ve picked a good one there Final Furlong :good:
    Quoted as short as 6/4 for the Dewhurst if he’s anything like his dam he’ll be hard to beat. Best of luck with him. :good: Jac

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    If I was going for an outsider at this stage of the game it would be
    Arabian Crown – 33/1
    I’m certain that if Godolphin had been in the form they were this time last year he would be much shorter and he is progressing nicely having won a listed race over a mile last time out beating his half brother the useful Arabic Legend, the first 3 set to meet again in the Royal Lodge at Newmarket.
    Looking forward to seeing how he does :good: Jac

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    Ok, time to put Jac’s colt under the critical microscope so I can look REALLY daft when he hoses up next year!

    Now first off, I’ve fallen for not one but two Godolphin 2yos myself the last two years with catastrophic results.

    First Goldspur – saw him at Epsom Downs when he wouldn’t go in the stalls, backed him when he won the Zetland, went to Sandown Park to find he hadn’t grown a millimetre, he finishes third to Westover and he since seems to have vanished off the face of the Earth.

    It gets better (worse).

    I was then at Salisbury to see Flying Honours bolt in in the Stonehenge, I backed him in the Zetland, but he then has the worst Knavesmire experience since Dick Turpin (executed there) in the Dante and has also vanished.

    Now Jac has alighted on another Godolphin Stonehenge winner.

    He’s a nice sort for sure and the pedigree says to me he could get beyond a mile at three, 1m2f at least, given the stamina on the dam’s side.

    The overall Salisbury time wasn’t bad and the form looks alright – OR 98 Son beaten nearly four lengths – so while he wouldn’t quite be for me for a Classic on what he’s done so far, I actually think he’s got far stronger credentials at this stage than Jac’s 1,000 filly.

    Interesting!

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    Always interested in your critiques Ian and thank you. :good:

    I didn’t realise that Goldspur hadn’t run since being gelded last August, probably somewhere on the other side of the world by now but would be nice if Godolphin gave out more information on their horses whereabouts. I didn’t even know that Regal Honour had died as a 3yo before he had time to fulfil his potential and he was a beautiful horse.
    Flying Honours as you said another to mysteriously disappear perhaps he encountered the ghost of Black Bess at York and made a break for freedom. :rose:

    Back to the 2024 Guineas and based on what you said regarding his run in the Stonehenge I have hope that he may be a lively contender for the 2000 Guineas but wouldn’t be looking to him being a Derby contender
    Providing that he fills out nicely and doesn’t do a vanishing act..it really depends on how he runs in the Royal Lodge to see if he has that Classic potential. Charlie Appleby was at least positive when talking about his 2yo’s this season and Arabian Crown must be his best hope going forward this season. :rose: Jac

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    Jac, I hope you know that I have the greatest respect for your views and perspective, not least because it’s a often different take to my own and an area where you are infinitely more knowledgeable than me.

    I must confess I would find it hilariously ironic if I abandon colts with the Goldspur/Flying Honours sort of profile and you effortlessly step in and supply a Classic winner with the very next one!

    I am definitely interested in this colt!

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    Just got home to see your post..many thanks Ian made me smile to imagine that might happen.
    We all have our own way of trying to pinpoint a winner and there are so many different factors to take into consideration I think I’m lucky to be able to see many of these horses run at Newmarket before they come back and go for the Guineas.
    I am glad you’re interested Ian and hopefully AC will get more interesting after the Royal Lodge. :yes: Jac

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    Says there is still some 6/1 available on Henry longfellow after today

    I’d say that’s not a bad price at all and won’t last long

    Was highly highly impressed with the way he travelled today and with his breeding he should just keep getting better

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    Much kudos to you Kris for the early spot on City of Troy. I wish you well, but I just have an inkling that Henry Longfellow is the one, but at 5-1 I can wait.

    I have had an early bet though on Vandeek at 20-1

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    I’m already on City of Troy

    Rosallion is my 2nd pick at 16’s
    Will be interesting to see how he gets on again today
    very impressive his first two runs
    possibly Dewhurst contender

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    #1666650
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    Similar to the 1000G, a possible head to head to look out for next year with my picks, City Of Troy 10s and Henry Longfellow 20s.

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    What’s Aidan said about Henry Longfellow, he’s doubled in price

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    #1687416
    Mike007
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    Aidan said he is favouring sending Henry Longfellow to France i.e. splitting them up. He did say that in January i took no notice then but he’s said it again this week. I’ve cashed in.

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    FinalFurlong91
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    They clearly don’t want city of troy to lose

    They own justify

    They don’t own Henry longfellows sire dubawi

    On soft ground longfellow would give him a serious serious race

    Personally think he’d beat him

    Commercially I don’t think they want the justify colt to lose

    So will split them up

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