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13.45 BYGONES OF BRID
14.15 FRENCH OPERA
14.50 KHYBER KIM – NAP
15.25 EDGBRIAR (EW)
16.15 NICHE MARKET(EW)
17.00 ROOKERY REBEL (EW)
17.35 MIC’S DELIGHT (EW)2.00 Escortmen
2.35 Burton Port NAP
3.10 Albertas Run
3.45 Pasco
4.20 Western Leader
4.55 Clova Island
5.30 Lifestyle2.00 Souffleur e/w
2.35 Barizan
3.10 Carruthers e/w
3.45 Having A Cut
4.20 Pigeon Island
4.55 Somersby NAP
5.30 Pacha Bear e/wAt least you get full screen on C4.
Had ATR on at the start of the Midlands National and the next thing we have split screen to show the Gowran Park race.
Would be nice if ATR could just concentrate on one race at a time.
1:30 – Alaivan
2:05 – Oldrik
2:40 – Tell Massini NAP
3:20 – Mon Mome (ew)
4:00 – Gentle George (ew)
4:40 – Clova Island (ew)
5:15 – Russian Flag (ew)1.30 Awesome George e/w
2.05 Cross Kennon e/w
2.40 Alberta’s Run e/w NAP
3.20 Cape Tribulation e/w
4.00 Victoria’s Groom e/w
4.40 Nostringsattached e/w1.30 Becauseicouldntsee
2.05 Finnans Rainbow
2.40 Diamond Harry
3.20 Master Minded NAP
4.00 City Theatre e/w
4.40 Ned Of The Hill e/w
5.15 Bishopsfurze e/w13:30 Blackstairsmountain e/w
14:05 Riverside Theatre
14:40 Chief Dan George e/w
15:20 Punjabi
16:00 Garde Champetre NAP
16:40 Zarinava e/wI’m no fan of lopping race distances on the basis of isolated instances of horses finishing unilaterally legless (if they finish at all), when in a drier winter races such as today’s would not necessarily have posed anything like the same attritional challenge.
gcUnderstand your answer to my comment and totally agree with the bit I’ve quoted.
The 2.55 may have been the most extreme case on the day with the field strung out as they approached the straight.
In the subsequent races I watched 4.05 and 4.40 the pace seemed sensible and a clear winner comfortable with the conditions ran away from the field that possibly were not.
I agree with Hoof’s comments about the 2.55. As I’ve said Orano Conti was moving quite nicely unlike all the others. I would certainly not suggest that STD should have pulled up his mount up but the jump that unseated him did look that of a tired horse.
I have two concerns about today and both I suppose relate to image.
Firstly, the sight of extremely tired horses is not good for the sport.
Secondly, the races are not really competitive when a third of the runners PU and the rest are strung out across the county – it’s just not a great advert for NH racing.
There were 66 runners at Chepstow today and 21 of them were eventually pulled up, not sure how many deaths but there has been 1 confirmed. The most worring aspect was that the NH Flat race, inexpieranced younger NH horses were asked to ride a full circuit, none were pulled up.
Just look at the distances between horses in that race
12 – 9 – 0.5 – 11 – 9 – 15 – 46 – 11 – 36 – 85 – 11
and this is minimum trip !!!!
Will have to reconsider my previous comment as I was only criticising the longer races in such conditions although as you say in this case it’s inexperienced horses.
Although CR’s language is emotive, the thing is races like the 2.55 are a poor advertisement for the sport and I don’t simply mean because the horse had to be put down, bad as that is.
To be fair Orano Conti was the only horse that did not show any signs of fatigue.
Just what purpose is served putting these longer races on in such conditions.
Horses are strung out and as today showed a horse won that has never been nearer than 40l to a winner in it’s previous appearances under NH rules.
Agreed, but the horse that was pulled up had almost stopped to a walk, the one that UR put in a tired jump and the winner climbed the last two obstacles in front of it.
it just didn’t look good to me.
It was suggested on ATR that the rules do state all obstacles have to be jumped but there is also a rule that allows the jockey to avoid if there is good reason.
Common sense prevailed in terms of the result.
What kind of advertisement for the sport are races like the 2.55 ?
It’s not a spectacle to see horses virtually climbing the fences to try and get over them at the business end of a race.
Anything over the minimum trip in these conditions and the horses are generally strung out like clothes on a line. It was similar at Uttoxeter last weekend.
