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Hi Ivanjica , welcome. Will be only too glad to help if I can.

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Can’t remember what year it was but pretty sure the National your US friends would appreciate was the one where the winner was ridden by Elizabeth Taylor.

Only looked about 13 at the time , different criteria for jockeys in those days – stable lad bore an uncanny resemblance to Mickey Rooney so there’s another link.

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Nice to see you back I de B.

Am still looking for your "missing" ones – will get there eventually.

Still trying to find something else to fill my time. Backing winners sure isn’t a successful alternative at the minute.

Cheers

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Hi Gerald , you were right , it’s a while since I’ve posted so must have got over-excited !!

Black White chevron , armlets & cap.

I de B. was chasing the following :-

Gold Cup
1972 Glencaraig Lady 1972 Gold Cup (owner Patrick Doyle)

King George
1961 Right Royal 1961 King George (Mrs Jean Couturié)

Champion Chase

1973 Inkslinger Champion Chase 1973 (Mrs M. Jenney
1966 Flying Bolt Champion Chase 1966 (Jean Wilkinson)
1959 Quita Que Champion Chase 1959 (Mrs D. R. Brand)

Arc
1960 Puissant Chef 1960 Arc (Henry Aubert)
1961 Molvedo 1961 Arc (Egidio Verga)
1957 Oroso 1957 Arc (Raoul Meyer)
1954 Sica Boy 1954 Arc (Mrs Jean Cochery)

Regards
I.

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Ile De Bourbon , were you watching Cheltenham today – a "flashback" that showed Inkslinger winning back in the 70’s.

Black White V , sleeves & cap

how are you getting on ?

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Hilly Way blue white slvs pink cap – courtesy of the 1979 Daily Express Grand National pullout ; fortunately they printed the colours for all televised races that day. Presume they were the same in ’78.

saved the pullouts since childhood – told the wife they’d come in handy one day.

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I de B. you’ve hit the nail on the head. Will have to think of some new challenge to keep me occupied , however will start to see if I can help with your missing ones.

fingers crossed.

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Final few as follows courtesy of Rob Marriott at Weatherbys.

Oaks 1897 Limasol Lord Hindlip ( Samuel Charles Allsopp ) dark blue and white chevrons white cap

2000 1898 Disraeli Wallace Johnstone cream olive slvs red cap

Oaks 1898 Airs and Graces W. T. Jones yellow and black diamonds qtd cap (A+ for Gerald)

Oaks 1909 Perola William Cooper orange and white stripes white cap

Oaks 1921 Love in Idleness Joseph Watson ( 1st Lord Manton ) blue orange slvs brown cap as per subsequent Lord Mantons as we thought

1000 1929 Taj Mah Simon Guthmann white brown slvs and cap watch this win on British Pathe site

1000 1940 Godiva 2nd Viscount Rothermere ( Esmond Harmsworth ) orange purple hoop on body and slvs purple cap agrees with Lady Rothermere in B&H book 1973

2000 1966 Kashmir II P. Butler red & white & light blue check light blue cap also appears in B&H book of colours 1973

Need to find something else to pass the time now.

Thanks to all who’ve got involved in this "trivia" over the past few months.

A successful 2010 to you all – Bash The Bookies !!

[isinglass]

God Bless Santa Claus and the fact that apparently I’m "impossible to buy for" at Christmas.

I have now got to work my way steadily through :-

12yo Glenfiddich

14yo Clynelish

10yo Talisker and a

12yo Cragganmore

When I wake up the other side of Royal Ascot I’ll report which is my "current" favourite.

Cheers

[isinglass]

Hi Frankie , according to the Guinness Book of Horse Racing records , facts , champions etc it was 16 St Legers , as follows :-

1827 Matilda
1828 The Colonel
1829 Rowton
1832 Margrave
1834 Touchstone
1838 Don John
1839 Charles XII
1840 Launcelot
1841 Satirist
1845 The Baron
1851 Newminster
1853 West Australian
1856 Warlock
1857 Imperieuse
1859 Gamester
1862 The Marquis

Cheers ( which maybe shouldn’t have been something his brother said too often )

[isinglass]

from what little I’ve learnt about him I imagine if they’d started to fade he’d have put the squeeze on the supplier to get a new set – don’t think he was a decent chap , probably why he appeared over this side of the Atlantic for a while until we gave him the elbow as well.

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Hi Gerald , following your lead I’ve been googling again – can’t touch you for it in the festive season apparently !!

if you google the long-winded …..

richard croker blue racing colours orby you get a mention of blue gold tassel ??

then googled richard croker gold tassel and got

Yale Blue Gold tassel

Yale Blue is a dark blue associated with the University.

Gerald , have seen one of your other topics , Colours , so this may make sense to you ..

Hexadecimal 0F4D92. from Wikipedia so must be right !

quite what Yale Blue gold tassel look like though not sure – braid on the body or just a tassel on the cap ?

Millionaires – like that idea a lot.

[isinglass]

Hello Gerald & Crepello , nice to see you back here and thanks for the input again.

re Caughoo , when "googling" Caughoo colours I too found mention of royal blue green & white being the colours of the owner. Agree with Gerald that the Pathe footage in the unsaddling enclosure makes it look like blue & green vertically halved white slvs & cap

I de B – thanks very much for you latest searches.

As advised a while ago , am going to write to current Viscount Rothermere , Baron Hindlip & will try current Lord Manton. Will either succeed or maybe end up in the Tower. Am checking Debrett’s for correct etiquette.

Regards

[isinglass]

further to my last posting – on e-bay there is one of the cards for Caughoo if you want to splash out £3.89 + £0.78 p&p.

Buy Now price so no bidding war to get into.

Colours look like pale blue white slvs & cap but it’s a bit hazy.

[isinglass]

Still searching for those missing National winners.

did discover on e-bay cigarette cards of national winners in the 1950’s – apparently on the back was the "trade name" Seagram as well as Imperial Publishing. Items for sale numbered 8 or 9 I think but as you can guess , the missing ones were Mr What and Quare Times – must be out there somewhere though.

this is what I’m left looking for :-

Oaks 1897 Limasol 2nd Baron Hindlip
2000 1898 Disraeli Wallace Johnstone
Oaks 1898 Airs and Graces W. T. Jones
Derby 1907 Orby Richard Croker
Oaks 1909 Perola William Cooper
Oaks 1921 Love inIdleness Joseph Watson
1000 1929 Taj Mah Simon Guthmann
1000 1940 Godiva 2nd Viscount Rothermere
Oaks 1947 Imprudence Mrs Pierre Corbiere
2000 1952 Thunderhead II Eugène Constant
2000 1966 Kashmir II P. Butler

thanks again to all who’ve taken the time to help.

[isinglass]

thanks for that info.

on the British Pathe news site coverage of Quare Times & Mr What’s national ( B&W footage of course)

Quare Times – hopefully you’ll find that the body is horizontally split in 3 , not halved as I said before , must have been careless there , in red white and blue but don’t know which order other than white’s in the middle. slvs and cap are solid colours but red, blue , don’t know – YET !

Mr What – dark body light hoops on slvs light cap with the dark hoop black&white ?

hasn’t helped I know but at least you can go and watch the race .

regards

[isinglass]

Prince Royal red black triangle qtd cap Benson & Hedges Book of Colours matches up with red & black mentioned in a Sports Illustrated article if you google Rex Ellsworth racing also then look at images and you can see the qtd cap

another drink for the inventor of the internet

cheers

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