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Oh dear. Our plucky amateur hero gets beaten a length. Still, it’s the taking part that counts.
I have a soft spot for old Lifetime Ambition , not quoted for this but I have a pound on him today.
Still got a 1/2 shot- in the Gigginstown silks in the bumper with only 3 rivals to beat. Horse cost €225k. Maybe grim determination and good old Corinthian spirit will get them home.
“Green would you rather have the Champion Chase trophy or the the ROA chaser of the year award”
I’d rather have the ROA award I think- they don’t give it for the best turned out.
It’s like saying would you rather win the Derby or the Cartier horse of the year. I’d rather win the Cartier …because it means you won more top quality stuff than the Derby. Calandagan is a better horse than Lambourn, for example.
“as for the ROA awarding him chaser of the year , which would you rather have that or the Champion Chase trophy”
I’d rather have two million pounds, which Galopin will hit under rules if he comes 2nd at Leopardstown again in a couple of weeks.
Put The Kettle On, like Marine, has two G1 Cheltenham festival wins (Arkle and QMCC) and was 4/4 at the course. Good mare, worthy G1 horse, deserved her wins. I’d rather own her than Marine Nationale cos she might breed a few decent foals.
“I can’t see how you can ask a much younger horse to have the same stats as 2 much older horses”
Marine is 9, only a year younger than Jonbon and GDC. He seems younger because he is so unsound he has had little racing.
Marine 3 from 8 over fences, Jonbon 14 from 20. Sure we’ll see at the DRF if MN comes on from his reappearance to confirm form with the klutz Maj and beat the mighty Solness.
“You can be cocky training Marine … hes that good ”
No he isn’t. He’s good, a decent G1 horse who deserves his wins, but he ain’t no Sprinter. They’re about all on a par. If Marine wins at the DRF, hacks up at Cheltenham and then wins easily at Aintree and/or Punchestown then I will concede that he is head and shoulders above everything else. But I don’t think he will, because I don’t think he is.
“Remember Barry Connell saying Jonbon’s not a proper G1 horse.”
Yes I saw that, on the Final Furlong podcast. Said he was “not much good” I think, and not a real G1 horse. Fine for Barry to big up his own horse but that was spiteful and unnecessary. Loads of chippiness about “The English” too. After seeing that I thought, I hope your horse gets walloped at Cheltenham, preferably by an English horse, preferably Jonbon.
Emmett Kennedy was lapping it all up and egging him on, slagging Jonbon enthusiastically too, the lickspittle.
“Prepare to watch one of the best horses in racing”.
Yes, how many Grade 1s is it for Jonbon now? ”
Eleven. Nearly one and a half million in prize money. Never been out of the first two, even when he got a fence completely wrong and pretty much crashed to standstill in this race 2 years ago, still had the heart to keep going and try to get back in the race.
“IET is up thank god – assuming it was a tired fall and he was winded”
Oh brilliant. It did look a tired winded fall but you never know
Is IET up? I only have my phone to watch on.
I hope James Bowen gets some credit for the win, you can be sure if Cobden was in the saddle he would be praised, in fact somebody on the betfair forum who didn’t know about the jockey substitution wrote this post thinking it was Cobden:
“Shades of Barry G there in the JP silks. Things not looking good but never gives in , tactically astute and galvanises the horse to victory!”Jonbon didn’t jump like a 2 miler, he put in short ones everywhere and put down the one time he was asked a fair question- Bowen had the wit to accept this and not ask for anything more. Don’t think the safety-first attitude is the jockey’s fault, it may be how Jonbon is now. Admirable horse, even if he hasn’t got the physical or mental ability to do the spectacular 2 mile chaser thing any more, he tries so hard.
I’ve gone for Jonbon with bet365’s position payout thing.
Put a bit on him ew at 25s for the QMCC too.
