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Actually, that’s misleading….hers’s s clue which may give it away, there is a switch of codes and no pt to pt connection.
Golden Miller, lots of mileage in Silver Birch for quizzes from all sorts angles, more than most recent winners of the GN, was actually there when he won too but have lost all respect for the event with what they’ve gone and done to it.Actually get more of a buzz from the Hennessey, don’t think there is much of a bigger attraction in NH racing than weight carrying performances in that event and/or the emergence of a big new player. Anyway, wrong but on the right lines !
ridden by a jockey who has been a champion jockey
good grief on the pop for a bit after early finish at work
Thanks Seasider, 75-79 time went oh so slow.Think it’s the same though whatever anyone’s main sport is. Your mind retains all sorts of stuff from your bitten period ,then struggles to remember anything about recent big events whether it be Grand Nationals, FA Cup Finals, Opens, Wimbledons or Monaco GP’s.
Anyway,this animal is not from that period.He won his maiden race at a northern English course.
At the time he raced in the colours of horses that have won races at the very top level.
When he he won this maiden race he was trained by a trainer who has been a champion trainer and ridden by a jockey who has been a champion trainer.
Four years later, trained in a different country with a different trainer,owner and rider, he won a championship UK event, with two previous winners of the same event in the field.Or was it a Friday evening and they showed the reply the following evening. Just seem to remember the BBC showing the Irish GNS from the can in the 1970’s. They definitely showed Jaazeiro at teatime on Grandstand, when Piggot pulled out wide.
Lady Capulet won the Irish 1,000 first time out – remember the BBC showing a reply around teatime on Grandstand. Got that one from the top of my head but had to check the internet for the other, Ballymore FTO in the Irish 2000 in 1972.
In fact must add that in a roundabout way it has had an influence on the European season in the shape of ‘Champions Days’ and the like. Whether it’s positive or negative depends on whether you are a fan of changes in the calendar, and filling single cards with a string of big races.The Tuesday of the Ebor meeting was once unique in the sense that for many years it was the only day in the calendar with more than one G1 on the card. I’d gladly go back to that but it ain’t going to happen. It’s an evolving sport alright but not necessarily for the better.
There were originally only seven BC races, there are now thirteen. It’s taken something from the event but all in all it doesn’t really have a detrimental effect on the European season.It’s almost an extension of it. Plus the excuses are already in place before you travel over.Defeat won’t really affect stallion value but in the case of trying the classic, it could massively increase it. Giant’s Causeway stood at Ashford on account of his classic run. They also ran Galileo in the race to try and make him appeal to dirt breeders too.In fact, a good one for a racing pub quiz would be around Galileo running at Southwell. Him and a few other Ballydoyle horses came for a racecourse gallop there prior to travelling over for the BC.
Not a clue what ‘Hateel’ translates to, but Hamdan must like the name as it’s second time around following Peter Walwyn’s useful handicapper from 25 years ago.
Thanks for running this – reminds me of the old Pacemaker comp when you wrote your entries in pen. That whole comp lost a community feel about it when the RP took it over. All the other sports then followed with their fantasy comps. They grew so much that they didn’t need the racing one anymore.
Altior*
Baywing
Campeador
Cloudy Dream
Defi Du Seuil
Might Bite
Mount Mews
Movewiththetimes
Pym
YorkhillExcellent work, Pilgarlic.
Must mention Sabin Du Loir’s Sun Alliance Hurdle, beating Dawn Run, with West Tip behind. Also Paul Croucher, who rode Aquilifier when he won at Cheltenham. Had been a journeyman rider for a few years but was suddenly blooming. Killed in a horrific car crash that Autumn.
And Murray- Smith, for a short period had the midas touch, then sank to normality.
I honestly don’t know Seasider. But the very popular animal that he owned, would of been liked by all sane racing fans, though perhaps not known to the general public, despite being high class. This well known animal beat a very famous horse when racing over hurdles with his first trainer.( not the same first trainer as the quiz horses’s though they both had the same, major name, second trainer.
The quiz horse won at the festival with his first trainer.Later,in the hands of the second,major name trainer, he won a race beating a Cheltenham Gold Cup winner.
Don’t think 50 years on a recital about the present would be so interesting, in fact they would be damn confusing going on about a race with seven Ballydoyle runners versus five Gosden ones.Or ten O’Leary owned, versus six Ritchie Ritchies.
Anyway, here’s my question. No tricks or nothing in code, though it may read a touch poppycock at first.
This gelding won at the Cheltenham festival.
He was trained by two trainers during his career.
The first trainer once trained a horse who won a major race with another trainer.
He also trained a very successful chaser, who later peaked with a northern trainer.
The second trainer of the quiz horse was one of the major trainers.
The owner of the quiz horse also owned one of the most popular animals of his time.
He also had two trainers, the second being the trainer of the quiz horse.This is Busted – was too young at the time to remember him, but Tony Morris,if I remember right, in an article on Mtoto’s pedigree many years ago, recounted how Noel Murless saw him running on the TV and thought he’d make a good pacemaker for Royal Palace.
Unfortunate that Graham Bradley will now always be generally known for other reasons.We forget what a fine, top class rider he was,a level above the other Dickinson ‘in house’ riders, including Robert Earnshaw, and despite a good overall career, could and should have achieved far more than he did. Mind you,he did bring on his problems himself.
Dunwoody’s ride on West Tip in 1986 for me. Tremendous pressure beforehand as he’d been travelling like a probable winner when coming down the previous year so the spotlight was one him. Was given the perfect ride and never looked in danger from a long way out.Also thought Bradley was terrific on Sunny Bay when runner up to Earth Summit. I know everyone goes on about ‘rhythm’, but jockey’s who are able to get horses into a rhythm stand out in these staying chases. A copy book example for me would be Francome’s ride on Brown Chamberlin in the Hennessy. However, we may have had egg rubbed on our faces as I’ve yet to see a convincing explanation as to why AP’s stats come out much better than Rubys in relation to falls in later stages of races ect
York – fantastic feelgood factor course complemented by a feelgood factor city.However,did not think there was a need to introduce these new trashy fixtures that have appeared in recent times.
Cheltenham – not been for for around 8 years now. Would still recommend but do believe that the Festival has been undermined by the extra day.And although the racecourse is in a lovely setting, I don’t think the town itself has the quaintness you would expect for the area.
Aintree – first went the day of Rummy’s third National but generally give the Saturday’s a miss and have only seen approx 10-12 Nationals in 40 years(and anyway it’s just the Grand National In Name Only Chase now ). Give the Fridays a miss now but always go on the Thursday. Hope they continue to hold out to the temptation of an extra day. When you consider that the course nearly went under twice, they’ve done terrific job with the place, and the two pre Xmas fixtures are decent too – though the early summer ones are dreadful.
Wetherby – once had a real buzz about it and fascinating cards too. The disappearance of quality northern based jumping yards along with the Highway Agency’s widening of the A1,has meant the venue has fallen a tier or two, and is not the attraction it once was.
Haydock Park – the good sponsorship and prize money through the winter merely paper over the cracks of what they did to that unique chasing course.
Newmarket – not been for many,many years but it does have it’s own uniqueness.The July course in particular has a feelgood ambience.
Chester – Greedy venue. They only built that new members stand because a couple of teenage miscreants torched down the old one. Too many additional trashy fixtures have been introduced which attract the sort of audience they deserve. The paddock side is full of posers at Pim’s tables, and the last two times I’ve been ( the most recent two Chester Vase days), I’ve met up with a genuine racing fan pal and we have gone in the centre of the course by the turn into the straight.Good pub near the course called The Falcon – it’s a Samuel Smiths and the only other one of those I know is the King’s Arms in York.
