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I thought Golden Tiger was a "stonking" place bet @ 1.89, to be in the 3 from 6.
I actually heard the pre race " fat" comment, but I do think exchange in running players over reacted. I put up a bet of 6.0, which was matched as soon as he was ridden, but I can’t think of many MJ horse that can be called unfit. The I.R price of 20.0 was simply crazy.
I think that is what seperates MJ/ Sir M. Stoute etc from the rest of the trainers; they can win maidens and progress from there, rather than the Sir. M. Prescott route.
It could be argued that each individual horse has to be trained on it’s merits, but I always find analysing MJ entries less time consuming than most.
Going back to the original question of whether he was value, I suppose the best time to answer that question is after his run off his new mark. It’s difficult knowing how he will be assessed, beating a 62 rated filly by 10 lths, who did not stay. I would hope the h/capper would be lenient going around 76, as the ground conditions played a big part, but I think he will go beyond that. I’m particularly interested in the mark awarded to Imprimis Tagula, who won by 9 lths.
Cheers beamer
Cheers beamer
I have taken to bait twice with his horses. the costly one was when I had Rightcar (40/1) in an E/W double with Sparking (50/1). Sparking got 3rd, but Rightcar managed to avoid getting placed in spectacular fashion. Slowly away then brought down the slowest part of the track. Even with the majority of bad horses, you can predict a running style to some degree, but not the PG horses.
The multiple entry issue is another headscratcher; claiming there are no races for the 2 yo’s. Poor old M. Johnson.
I’m also interested to know why he sends so many to Lingfield. If your going to trail in last, surely it’s more economical to do it at Wolver/South.
I wish him all the best for next season.
Does the guy have a clue what he’s doing? His results would suggest not.
The fact that he did ok in 2005/2006 and his showjumping background, would indicate he does know how to train. It may be possible that he had an assistant who has left ( what happedned to R.P Elliot ?)that was the dominant player in the operation, but it’s the placing of horses that baffles me.
It appears his owner has stayed loyal, but what a load of dross they have aquired.
Even though he has a rich owner supporting the yard, which is obviously out of form, what I cannot fathom out is the placing of horses.
A large majority of his string must be OR 45 or lower, but they are constantly placed in h/caps. If I was desperate to get a win, surely bang an OR rated mid 60’s into a seller/ banded race.
I’ve no stats, but I do think he has a high rate of pre race withdrawals.
Having watched the stable closely, I also think his recent runners with a "remote" chance of placing have been given poor rides.
A look at the 2yo’s purchased this year would indicate the strike rate can only get worse if that’s possible.
I know very little mabout training horses, but even claiming a horse and running it swiftly would be a priority ( i.e. Ebraam), simply to stop the rot.
Has any one heard any recent interviews with PG. I remember him being media friendly in the old days.
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