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He’s exempt from the ballot in the Cox Plate (2040m) so I thought that would be more likely.
But maybe, if De Kock thinks he’ll back up in 10 days, he’ll run in both. However, he knows Musir, all going well, will be in the Cox Plate. He won’t be training, but he may think that he is too hard to beat. He did say he was classier than Asiatic Boy.
I think De Kock will be desperate to turn the tables – he has had one horse run in the Cox Plate/Melbourne Cup, and that was Greys Inn in 2005. And nothing went right.
Mike De Kock and Kevin Shea think Lizard’s Desire could be a Melbourne Cup horse surprisingly.
Yeah, I reckon only 3 or 4 will make the starting gates. Just trying to highlight the link.
And I’ll take you on with Zarzuela if you want. I like Shamoline Warrior, just not sure about 2 miles. Zarzuela will get it.
Well last year there were 28 final acceptors – Hissing Sid, Six O’Clock News, Hoorang and Vigor missed out.
Not sure about other years.
Gerald – do you think Purple Moon could come down again? I know he is older now, but I reckon the VRC would love that notion of history meeting the present. That is why they are attempting to get Pop Rock out of retirement.
If they had Pop Rock, Efficient, Purple Moon, Zipping, Bauer (or has he been retired? I haven’t heard), Shocking, Crime Scene and Mouriyan alongside horses like Linton, Shoot Out, Monaco Consul, So You Think, Zarzuela…I think they’d be very proud.
If Nanton runs a big race in the Yorkshire Cup, you’d have to think a tilt at the Melbourne Cup would be on the cards!
Anyone else seeing a problem developing here?
There are likely to be 3-4 English or Irish horses, 3-4 Asian horses (HK & Japan), 1-2 Australian owned European horses based in Europe, 4-5 Australian owned European horses based in Australia, 1-2 from other countries, 4-5 Kiwis…
Worst case scenario, that leaves 2 spots for Australian owned and bred horses (that may include Kiwi breds like Efficient).
I tell you what, I can see the 150th Melbourne Cup being bogged down in "
limit the internationals
" calls.
Alandi and Mourayan are likely to have their first start in Australia at Flemington this weekend – down the Flemington Straight Six (6f, 1200m).
It is a typical Lloyd Williams preparation, he did it with Efficient last year – in fact Efficient ran in the exact same race last year.
This will probably be their only run until August.
Don’t think we’ve ever had a horse drop so far in distance from their last start though – 4000m to 1200m!
Stanstill has been bought by OTI for the Melbourne Cup.
Stanstill is on the move as former Australian cricketer Simon O’Donnell eyes Melbourne Cup triumph
By Marcus Townend
Last updated at 10:23 PM on 9th May 2010Stanstill, one of the most progressive stayers in training, has been bought by a syndicate headed by former Australian Test cricketer Simon O’Donnell to run in the Melbourne Cup.
The four-year-old, who will race for the OTI Racing Syndicate, is due to run in the Listed Braveheart Stakes at Hamilton on Friday. He will remain with Yorkshire trainer Alan Swinbank.
The deal to buy Stanstill followed a clinical comeback victory at Southwell in March, his fourth of his 10 races.
Bloodstock agent Alastair Donald, who brokered the deal, said: ‘He looks a progressive stayer with a turn of foot who goes on any ground. We are not going to overface him. He’ll be kept to Listed class and may even go the Ebor Handicap route.’
O’Donnell, who played on the 1985 Ashes tour, almost won Australia’s biggest race in 2008 with his share in Luca Cumani’s runner-up Bauer.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/racing … z0nTNRb2oZ
I tend to agree.
It is going to be a cracking race this year.
If he does run in the Queen Alexandra, I definitely won’t back him in a Melbourne Cup.
Melbourne Cup 2010 – The dates and antepost odds for Flemington
Faint Perfume is the favourite for the 2010 Melbourne Cup.(credit: Two Big Paws)
Racingbase Staff – 7 May 2010The 2010 Melbourne Cup is rapidly approaching and the antepost betting ahead of Australia’s most prestigious race is beginning to heat up.
To be run on Tuesday November 2 2010, more than 100,000 people are sure to pile into Flemington Racecourse and with a worldwide television audience of 650 million, it is not hard to see why the showpiece is viewed by many as the world’s greatest horse race.
Sportingbet Australia currently have Faint Perfume as their 17.00 market leader in what looks a typically open betting heat. Linton (20.00) and Jessicabeel (21.00) are right behind the antepost favourite, but it could be 2009 Melbourne Cup winner Shocking who is of most interest to punters, with odds of 23.00 being offered about the Aussie superstar retaining his crown.
Japanese racing sensation Oken Bruce Lee is a 35.00 chance while Efficient is currently being offered at the same price.
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Fair enough Chiswickian, sorry for the "grilling".
I probably couldn’t have Mamlook, I really don’t like these horses racing over 3800m, 4000m consistently.
I agreed with what you said about Alandi, in that Kasbah Bliss went to HK and ran well so there is every chance he’ll be able to handle it.
But not Mamlook for me.
I’d be more inclined to have something on Shahwardi, that is the type of horse I think would be suited.
Wouldn’t happen to be Race Horse Talk or Racing Australia, would it?
It’s back up now.
Yeah I thought that was a bit weird. Very weird in fact. There may have been a 3yo filly nominated that year, I’m going to do some digging.
Ok, so I found out – there was a 3yo gelding nominated, his name was Twostonelighter. He was given 46kg. The limit weight for open class horses was 48kg. Still quite odd.
How did you know about our site Chiswickian, are you a user too? Yes, very bored, although indications are it should be back in the next couple of days. The host company indeed went broke.
Cup plans for Jaguar
* Matt Stewart
* From: Herald Sun
* Monday, 3 May 2010TWO big hurdles to Craig Williams winning the 150th Melbourne Cup on star Japanese stayer Jaguar Mail are weight and quarantine.
Connections said the Cup was Jaguar Mail’s target after Williams won Japan’s premier staying race, Sunday’s Tenno Sho, on the horse.
But owner Katsumi Yoshida said the weight Jaguar Mail received for the Cup could decide whether he made the trip.
And even if Yoshida approves of the weight Racing Victoria chief handicapper Greg Carpenter allocates – perhaps 57 to 57.5kg – strict quarantine protocols, still in place as a result of Equine Influenza – could thwart the trip.
Japanese trainers have told Racing Victoria that any Cup plans will be abandoned if quarantine requirements are not settled this month.
Carpenter said Jaguar Mail was a better performed horse than Pop Rock and similar to Delta Blues, the Yoshida-owned pair that ran the 2006 Melbourne Cup quinella. Japanese horses have not run since.
Delta Blues carried 56kg – 3kg more than Pop Rock. The minimum that year was 46kg. It was 50kg last year.
Chief executive Dale Monteith said the Victorian Racing Club wanted a special 150th Cup and Japanese horses would bring much to the race.
Williams, who has ridden three winners in Japan since taking up a three-month contract last week, said Jaguar Mail would be a big Cup chance.
"Connections have said they’d think strongly about coming if he got a reasonable weight," he said. "If he was to run in a Melbourne Cup he’d run very, very well."
The Australian contingent will involve Nicconi (only back him in the King’s Stand, he has won at 1400m but he is an 1000m horse), Alverta (won’t be up to it IMO), Gold Trail (a bit of an enigma, on his best form could win) and Eagle Falls (the progressive of the four).
Seriously, forget Alverta. Gerald, she was scratched only because he wants her fresh in Britain.
But she is not a sprinter!
She did run Takeover Target to a nose one day, when TT carried 7.5kg more on a heavy track.
But IMO she ain’t up to it.
Nicconi for the King’s Stand, Eagle Falls for the Golden Jubilee, Starspangledbanner for the Queen Anne, Denman for the July Cup.
Also, Gerald – Rocket Man will most likely spell after the Krisflyer to focus on an international campaign in the latter half of the year taking in the Manikato Stakes or the Patinack Farm Classic in Australia, the Sprinters Stakes in Japan and the Hong Kong Sprint.
I think Extra Zero’s been overhyped – or he was in a purple patch last spring and just hasn’t gone on with it. It is bad, I can’t even think of any really good horse that Hayes has had in recent times, except Our Aqaleem.
He ran 7th today.
Definitely think Jaguar Mail should be set for the Cup, he’d run a big race. Perhaps Meiner Kitz too.
Nanton would be an interesting runner.
I must say though, it will be a harder race to get into this year in my opinion.