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One of the best 6f sprints of the year, with hopefully a world class field
contesting first prize! This year i am hoping the prize stays at home with
<b>Art Connoissor</b> not because he is 40 on the machine, although he
should never be that price anyway! I thought last year he was “visually”
the horse who showed the most explosive turn of foot and that was over
the same course as the Golden Jubilee itself, in the Coventry, had it been anywhere else you could argue about the possibiity of repeating such a
performance! What makes the result even more spectacular is that the 2nd and 3rd placed horses Intense focus and Lord Shanakil went on to
finish 1st and 2nd in the Group 1 Dewhurst! I know Arty had lost his way
after such an impressive start to his career, but he always looked physically as though a bit of time would do him good! Thats my opinion
anyway! “Opening Batsman TAPK has just hit a 6”!!but he always looked physically as though a bit of time would do him good! Thats my opinion
anyway! "Opening Batsman TAPK has just hit a 6"!!You have it the other way round here, at Ascot last year he was the more developed juvenile out of nearly all 2 year olds, and once the others caught up with him physically he found too many good for him, I don’t think there is much improvement in him.
but he always looked physically as though a bit of time would do him good! Thats my opinion
anyway! "Opening Batsman TAPK has just hit a 6"!!You have it the other way round here, at Ascot last year he was the more developed juvenile out of nearly all 2 year olds, and once the others caught up with him physically he found too many good for him, I don’t think there is much improvement in him.
Red, a fair observation there, but may i suggest you watch the race again
as the race was run in June, the Dewhurst in October! That would give
both Intense focus and Lord Shanakil, 3 months to improve! Undoubtedly
both did to about 15lb each, which would be what you would expect from
2 high class 2yo colts at that time of year! But my point is both these colts
ran against the best of last years 2yo"s and nothing did to them what theArt Connosseur
did to them in June! Whats more Artys route to victory took him along Park Lane before cutting back across Green Park
before he flew past them still Green and Mentally immature! I dissagree that you think Arty was fully furnished physically! He is now!I’ve found there is a broad difference between an explosive turn-of-foot in restricted juvenile races and Open class.
I’ll wait to see the plans of Sacred Kingdom, Takeover Target first.
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One of the best 6f sprints of the year, with hopefully a world class field
contesting first prize! This year i am hoping the prize stays at home withArt Connoissor
not because he is 40 on the machine, although he
should never be that price anyway! I thought last year he was "visually"
the horse who showed the most explosive turn of foot and that was over
the same course as the Golden Jubilee itself, in the Coventry, had it been anywhere else you could argue about the possibiity of repeating such a
performance! What makes the result even more spectacular is that the 2nd and 3rd placed horses Intense focus and Lord Shanakil went on to
finish 1st and 2nd in the Group 1 Dewhurst! I know Arty had lost his way
after such an impressive start to his career, but he always looked physically as though a bit of time would do him good! Thats my opinion
anyway! "Opening Batsman TAPK has just hit a 6"!!Well before you wrote this AC was well past any 40’s on the machine if it’s Betfair you are referring to. He has gone from 43 to18 by yesterday morning
I don’t know what hs created the interest there but Hills didn’t seem to be impressed as he’s till 40’s with them.
That’s no surprise really as he doesn’t stand much of a chance of winning against these seasoned sprinters. He’d have to be exceptionally talented and not be running in a race just because his trainer can’t find aything else to run him in.
I don’t mean to harp on but I really can’t work out how you think. This just doesn’t fit in with what you have ben saying on other threads.
You were adamant and still are Mastercraftsman is a top miler. He therefore in your mind can’t surely be a top sprinter, yet he slaughted Art Connoisseur over 6 furlong now you have him a 3yo going to beat the likes of Scenic Blast Marchand Dor, Kings Apostle and Takeover Target.
That just doesn’t make sense to me.
I don’t mean to harp on but I really can’t work out how you think.
Fist, with all due respect, the only thing we have in common is we study
Martial arts and the first thing we are taught are The Tenets, Courtesy
Integrity, SELF CONTROL, perseverance, Indomitable spirit! i have treated
you with all of the above, but occassionaly your attacks on me demand
a firmer response.Its called Self Defense! Purely verbal! Now you dont need
to "work out how i think" because at the end of the day it doesn"t matter!
This is not a game of chess, its all about enjoying the greatest sport ever
and if you can actually make a profit at it all the better! The selections i
put on this forum hopefully trigger others to perhaps have an Ante-Post wager, my "unique" style defineately stirs debate and i have posted winners at the end of the day surely thats what matters!I’ve found there is a broad difference between an explosive turn-of-foot in restricted juvenile races and Open class.
I’ll wait to see the plans of Sacred Kingdom, Takeover Target first.
TT looks to struggle to get home over 6f in Europe and definitely looks the part going 5, can’t see him skipping the Kings Stand for this race (might try both but think he’s a cert to run in the 5f race).
Can’t comment much on Sacred Kingdom but the foreign horses seem to want to try the "double" so to speak. On the basis that he’s a CD winner, will get his ground, have the visor back on etc. I’ve taken some 16’s and 20’s about
Kings Apostle
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Can’t comment much on Sacred Kingdom but the foreign horses seem to want to try the "double" so to speak. On the basis that he’s a CD winner, will get his ground, have the visor back on etc. I’ve taken some 16’s and 20’s about
Kings Apostle
IRISH,as the saying goes "He"s got the Power"! Good run at York that!
Dont think TT is even entered in the Kings Stand at this stage is he? He wasnt disgraced in the Golden Jubilee last year but I wholeheartidly agree he did seem to struggle to get home.
I still firmly believe in my head that Kingsgate Native winning last year must have been a fluke. Probably because I backed him in the Kings Stand only to NOT back him for the 2nd race……………..
If Sacred Kingdom does turn up he’ll run one hell of a race. He’s taken a while to get going this season after a pretty long lay off and had been turned over at all kinds of odds on prices before coming home 1st in Singapore. It’s safe to say he’s past the warm up stage now and is ready for another big race victory. Whether that is here, however, i’m not sure.
I’d be interested if War Artist turned up here fresh if the right vibes were coming out of the stables. I’d been following him since his run in this last year, prior to the injury, and he was certainly shaping up like he’d win a big race sometime soon. Obviously that will come later than I expected…
I’m not ashamed to say I’ve already taken a small £5 bet on Art Conisseur at 40/1. Michael Bell’s decision to revert him back to sprinting added to the gallop reports make this a very interesting bet. He certainly seemed to love Ascot last year in the Coventry in what was the most visually impressive performance of the day. I was sitting at the 1f pole last year as he went bounding past me seemingly enjoying the track quite a lot (I’d decided to back Orizaba that day and turned down the 8/1 available on Art Conisseur. Funny how that happens when you have 2 on your shortlist isnt it?)
Marchand D’Or, from the memories of last year, had a tough passage at Ascot and then came out to win multiple Group 1’s in England following this race. He doesnt seem to be anything like his best at the moment though and I’m sceptical that 10/1 is a decent price for this horse on current form.
Bushranger and Sayif are others to consider at this stage with slight preference for Bushranger if he has trained on.
All in all, I’d love for all of the names being bounded around to actually turn up on June 20th. Theres a lot of class in the entries at this stage and I hope it stays that way!
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TT looks to struggle to get home over 6f in Europe and definitely looks the part going 5, can’t see him skipping the Kings Stand for this race (might try both but think he’s a cert to run in the 5f race).
Although he stays 7f in his home country, Takeover Target seems to struggle to last 6f in this, and it’s not uncommon for other Aussie sprinters to be ‘short runners’ over here.
Maybe it’s because their ‘good ground’ is faster than ours, or their turf is faster generally: certainly we do better in such as the Melbourne Cup with 12/14f horses than with genuine 2 milers, and it can’t only be down to pace as, class for class, times for Australian sprints are appreciably faster than ours. Sure, Takeover Target has run well in 3 Golden Jubilees and a July Cup, but, imo, has never quite lasted home.Do Australian horses get performance enhancers ? I’m sure this was discussed last year before Haradasun won his race at Ascot.
I’m not ashamed to say I’ve already taken a small £5 bet on Art Conisseur at 40/1. Michael Bell’s decision to revert him back to sprinting added to the gallop reports make this a very interesting bet.
Dont be ashamed Halfway,the penny will drop with him and when it does
Whoosh! I would have liked to see Hayley ride this fellow, she would coax
the undoubted talent that he"s been keeping to himself!!What about BushRanger folks…..he had a write good 2yr Old career and its about time Ireland had a decent Sprinter…..could make his debut this weekend at the Curragh,
One to keep a eye ou for
What about BushRanger folks…..he had a write good 2yr Old career and its about time Ireland had a decent Sprinter…..could make his debut this weekend at the Curragh,
One to keep a eye ou for
Good shout, forms in the book!
Its was always obvious that they thought he was a sprinter since they sent him to the Middle Park as a 2yr old….I be pretty confident that he could really go close as the 3yr old Division is so strong this year and as a dual Group 1 winner he does have quite decent form.
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I’m not ashamed to say I’ve already taken a small £5 bet on Art Conisseur at 40/1. Michael Bell’s decision to revert him back to sprinting added to the gallop reports make this a very interesting bet.
Dont be ashamed Halfway,the penny will drop with him and when it does
Whoosh! I would have liked to see Hayley ride this fellow, she would coax
the undoubted talent that he"s been keeping to himself!!Of course you guys are ignoring the fact that Michael Bell doesn’t fancy him one bit and wouldn’t let him within a mile of this race if he could find something else for him.
I guess you must have missed that article.
Of course you guys are ignoring the fact that Michael Bell doesn’t fancy him one bit and wouldn’t let him within a mile of this race if he could find something else for him.
I guess you must have missed that article.
Thats right Fist, Michael Bell is a Trainer of racehorses and he places his horses well, we all know the stable thought Arty would be a Guineas horse, unfortunately he isn"t! Plan B he showed last year he has what it takes to be a Top sprinter! Where would you run him then oh wise one?
Lets hope he lives up to my expectation as i have a dabble antepost
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