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I’m amazed anyone should get any crumbs of comfort from Zaynars effort, thought it was a shocker and couldn’t have him on my mind for Cheltenham.
I’m amazed anyone should get any crumbs of comfort from Zaynars effort, thought it was a shocker and couldn’t have him on my mind for Cheltenham.
I think if you fancied Zaynar before yesterdays race, nothing has changed except the price. He has chance but grinding out a win in a triumph hurdle shouldnt make you a champion hurdle favourite. Solwhit, Go native et al. would probably be a substantial step up.
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An unexpected loss, but Quwetwo shouldn’t be underestimated. Howard Johnson has never been shy to express how excited he is by this horse.
Big isn’t the word to describe Quwetwo. He stands ‘at least 18 hands’ and, to quote the trainer "We’ve had to have a special breast plate made for him…"
I wouldn’t be too bothered by his tendency to clout the odd hurdle. Denman had poor hurdling technique and look what he’s gone on to achieve over fences.
I wouldn’t say it’s unusual for horses that size to show complete disdain for those ‘little nuisances’.
I have been vocal in my belief that Zaynar had something to prove as a Champion Hurdle candidate. He will enjoy the better ground Cheltenham should offer and will relish the fast pace and final climb. He’ll be a hard horse to keep out of the frame, but should find one or two too pacy for him.
Am I the only who thinks Punjabi is the safest option and value at 11/1? He was well beaten in the Kingwell last year before going on to win at Cheltenham and it wouldn’t worry me in the slightest if he’s beaten tomorrow. The way he travelled on his reappearance suggested that he retains all of his ability and there’s very little to choose between him and Solwhit (best priced 7/2) on their Punchestown meeting. The ground that day was desperate and Solwhit will at a distinct disadvantage on better ground.
Go Native is quirky, Kyber Kim is more than capable of having an off-day and Medermit, whilst admirable, is no superstar.
Isn’t it wonderful how we can all see the same raca and yet come to such different conclusions.
What I saw a potential top grade chaser (2011 RSA) running over a distance too short and over obstacles that were too small for him, slug out a victory from a horse whose form this season did not merit such a crazy price.
Last years Triumph winner, as I suspected already after his Cheltenham run where he took forever to pass Cape Tribulation, might not have trained on, as is often the case with Triumph horses who can take a couple of seasons to get over the race.Typical example , Won In The Dark 3rd in 2008, has only just recently recaptured that sort of form. It’s a race that takes a lot out of a young horse.
My 4-y-0 NH horse would run start in a point in the autumn, run in a couple of bumbers later that season then go hurdling next season at five, chasing at six unless he was an exceptional hurdler.CS,
Are you really saying Zaynar has not trained on?
His Ascot race proves he’s more than trained on. Fact is he’s always been a lazy xxx.
Value Is EverythingCheekpieces, better ground, fully fit = different horse. Still not sure he will be good enough but then again I’m not entirely sure how good he will NEED to be. Dunguib must stick to the novices though.
Typical example , Won In The Dark 3rd in 2008, has only just recently recaptured that sort of form.
Won In The Dark won the Champion 4yo Hurdle at Punchestown on his following start after the triumph and 2 hurdles races later the following winter finished 2nd in the December Hurdle to Sublimity a previous champion hurdle winnner. He has been highly tried in grade 1 races ever since, the run the other day was his first run outside of a grade 1 over hurdles against a rather average field and he beat them as he should, hardly a typical example, infact, a rather misinformed example. Big Fail.
Won In The Dark was my outside fancy last year funnily enough and he will be again this year. Call me mad but what the heck, worth a try.
Won In The Dark was my outside fancy last year funnily enough and he will be again this year. Call me mad but what the heck, worth a try.
I posted him as the value EW on the Champion thread yesterday 100-1 and a crazy 409 on betfair
If Dunguib and Voler La Vedette are absent he’s got as good a chance as many shorter priced runners
If they show up I agree, not a snowballs
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