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I have been impressed by Clive Cox’s Reckless Abandon and noted that Richard Hannon stated that he wouldn’t oppose him again with Sir Prancelot. Due to race next in the Prix Morny over 6f I am unsure about whether he will be a Guineas contender next year, given that he has raced at 5f in his three races to date. I am no breeding guru so would appreciate any input on whether this guy can improve again and handle the necessary stamina progression required. Thank you.
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There is a limited amount of information available. The sire Exchange Rate is a son of Danzig, his best progeny have trained on so there is a reasonable expectation that he will be ok in that respect. The question of stamina for the Guineas must have some doubt as the damsire is Efisio, whose best broodmare products have excelled at distances short of a mile. However the second dam Argent du Bois is a son of Silver Hawk who is a pretty good stamina influence. She produced Ticker Tape from a mating with Royal Applause who won the American Oaks having raced in the UK as a juvenile. She has also produced a number of less talented animals from subsequent matings with Royal Applause but they showed enough stamina to suggest that Silver Hawk had helped.
Reckless Abandon has an older half brother by El Prado who has been placed over 9f on soft in Ireland this summer. El Prado is a stronger stamina influence than Exchange Rate and Jumbo Prado gets his grey colouring from his sire so Reckless Abandon is unlikely to stay as well as him.
If Clive Cox runs him over 7f this season it will probably be quite informative but the Morny and Middle Park look good targets at the moment. I would say that a mile would be the maximum distance he would want to travel and hitting the rising ground coming out of the dip may well find him out.There is a limited amount of information available. The sire Exchange Rate is a son of Danzig, his best progeny have trained on so there is a reasonable expectation that he will be ok in that respect. The question of stamina for the Guineas must have some doubt as the damsire is Efisio, whose best broodmare products have excelled at distances short of a mile. However the second dam Argent du Bois is a son of Silver Hawk who is a pretty good stamina influence. She produced Ticker Tape from a mating with Royal Applause who won the American Oaks having raced in the UK as a juvenile. She has also produced a number of less talented animals from subsequent matings with Royal Applause but they showed enough stamina to suggest that Silver Hawk had helped.
Reckless Abandon has an older half brother by El Prado who has been placed over 9f on soft in Ireland this summer. El Prado is a stronger stamina influence than Exchange Rate and Jumbo Prado gets his grey colouring from his sire so Reckless Abandon is unlikely to stay as well as him.
If Clive Cox runs him over 7f this season it will probably be quite informative but the Morny and Middle Park look good targets at the moment. I would say that a mile would be the maximum distance he would want to travel and hitting the rising ground coming out of the dip may well find him out.Thanks very much for this. Very informative.
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Quality post Eclipse , continuing to impress on this outpost
Looks like a sprinter to me
Ricky
Excellent post Eclipse, you certainly know breeding.
If you’re thinking about the 2000 Guineas Steve… Whether or not (probably not) Reckless Abandon stays the mile, I’d be concerned about his temperament. Habit of wandering under pressure is now definitely not greeness and it may well get worse. There’s also a question mark about whether Clive Cox’s horses are at their best in early May. Although did well with his last Guineas horse, Xtension finishing 4th to Makfi. Xtension now races in top quality races in Hong Kong.
Value Is EverythingOn a separate note I’m sure the owners will get big money offers for this colt, which they may find difficult to refuse.
Excellent post Eclipse, you certainly know breeding.
If you’re thinking about the 2000 Guineas Steve… Whether or not (probably not) Reckless Abandon stays the mile, I’d be concerned about his temperament. Habit of wandering under pressure is now definitely not greeness and it may well get worse. There’s also a question mark about whether Clive Cox’s horses are at their best in early May. Although did well with his last Guineas horse, Xtension finishing 4th to Makfi. Xtension now races in top quality races in Hong Kong.
I am thinking about him for the Guineas but I like a contender for that race to have had one race at 5f at most before stepping up to 6f, as it helps to convince that they are not just a precocious sprinting type of animal. I heard before his second run that this horse was a bit of a headcase. I’d certainly like some encouragement that he might grow out of that sooner, rather than later. Reckless made a winning debut on 19th May and that offers encouragement that he might come to hand in time for the 2000G. It would be nice to see Clive Cox land a big one and break the procession of Ballydoyle inmates.
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I am no further on really regarding stamina but nice to see him go in again. I note that, despite Richard Hannon stating that he wouldn’t take him on again with Sir Prancelot, they did exactly that!! Oh well, maybe he has learned his lesson now and will lower the sights a bit for his fellow.
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Too much speed, light frame, no stamina in the pedigree.
Won’t make it to the Guineas.
Too much speed, light frame, no stamina in the pedigree.
Won’t make it to the Guineas.
Shame if he doesn’t make it there. A rather unconsidered horse I think. You get the feeling that if he were trained by Cecil or O’Brien then punters would be licking their monitors and writing Tennyson like eulogies.
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Don’t let the doom mongers put you off Steve – could be another Attraction. If I had a quid for everytime I read she wouldn’t train on, let alone stay, I wouldn’t be boring anyone posting on here I’d be on a beach with a busty bimbo.
Don’t let the doom mongers put you off Steve – could be another Attraction. If I had a quid for everytime I read she wouldn’t train on, let alone stay, I wouldn’t be boring anyone posting on here I’d be on a beach with a busty bimbo.
How many attractions have won the guineas? if you think her win is enough evidence to go against the grain in the future you’ll be picking up pennies for the rest of your life.
Extreme example of why this sport is so unpredictable.
Reckless Abandon looks like a true sprinter to me and has July Cup written all over him. I can see him running in the 2000 Guineas but not winning it.
Don’t let the doom mongers put you off Steve – could be another Attraction. If I had a quid for everytime I read she wouldn’t train on, let alone stay, I wouldn’t be boring anyone posting on here I’d be on a beach with a busty bimbo.
How many attractions have won the guineas? if you think her win is enough evidence to go against the grain in the future you’ll be picking up pennies for the rest of your life.
Extreme example of why this sport is so unpredictable.
I certainly picked up plenty of pennies the day she won the 1000 clever clogs. Swimming against the tide pays dividends now and then – so get off your high horse.
We only ever hear of the winners, bet you’ve got nothing to your name backing horses with the same conformation as Attraction then again I doubt you’d even know much about that, you’re probably on about the Attraction on the Virtual at midday..
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