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July 15, 2013 at 21:02 #445765
Jamie Spencer’s ability to ride horses into trouble on wide open racecourses is a true gift.
Café Society on Saturday is the latest one that springs to mind lol.
Interesting that William Haggas went to great pains to suggest how ‘gutted’ Graham was with the result.Not as gutted as those who knew he was the best horse in the race!
He also seemed gutted considering he’d just had a 1-2 in one of the biggest handicaps of the season! Atzeni gave the winner a peach it has to be said.
You can pick loads of examples of good and bad riding everyday…and often people will disagree. Often its a case of you only spot the good and bad rides of the horses you backed…so if you never ever backed a horse with say G Lee up you’d probably think he never made a mistake as he seems to continually pip your selection on the line lol!
July 16, 2013 at 15:01 #445807Points to the lack of world class jockeys in England.Most European world class jockeys ply their trade outside the BIs.
July 16, 2013 at 19:14 #445823Richard Hughes without a shadow of a doubt.
Moore is more restricted in how he rides a horse and favours holding them up late and winning by a nose. Hughes will get the job done
Some jockeys – a few who have been mentioned in this thread already – would make me want to take the whip to them as an owner. Little to no imagination or initiative
Hughes on the flat, Geraghty over jumps.
I’d agree with the above if you swapped the names around!
Geraghty on the flat ? ……
Hughes is more versatile than Moore.
Jamie Spencer’s ability to ride horses into trouble on wide open racecourses is a true gift.
My apologies – I meant your flat pilot descriptions, although perhaps the thread title might have lead you in the correct direction?
July 18, 2013 at 23:57 #445951I was kidding, hence the ……
Knew what you meant.
July 19, 2013 at 13:44 #445984Richard Hughes has a ready made winner factory in the form of the Hannon stable. Most of those horses are speed animals and simply need pointing in the right direction.
For a few years now I have thought Ryan Moore to be the best man to have on board in a finish and he’s my idea of the best jockey around. Anyone who thinks Hughes is better should have a look at Wentworth’s first race this year, which was a masterclass in getting the best horse in the race, by a mile, beaten by getting trapped behind a "wall" of horses in a 7 runner field.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
July 19, 2013 at 17:52 #445997I think Wentworth was a job well done for them at Goodwood. The plan ultimately failed at Ascot.
Tonight at Newmarket – Another ride from Moore where he waits miles out the back and leaves it too late. The guy’s obsessed with that type of race.
July 19, 2013 at 18:08 #445999Ryan Moore for me I think. Not only probably the best jockey on the flat racing circuit at the moment, but he also appears to be an entirely level headed and presentable young man when interviewed too.
July 19, 2013 at 18:40 #446002JP Spencer an artist on horseback. The beauty of some of his wins is obvious .. and then there was that win in New York on Cape Blanco .. art meets commerce
July 19, 2013 at 19:28 #446006I think Wentworth was a job well done for them at Goodwood. The plan ultimately failed at Ascot.
Tonight at Newmarket – Another ride from Moore where he waits miles out the back and leaves it too late. The guy’s obsessed with that type of race.
The plan failed because they forgot to get Hughes off his back.
If anyone is obsessed with being out the back I would say it was Hughes. I haven’t seen anyone who likes coming from behind so much since the late Freddie Mercury
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
July 19, 2013 at 20:50 #446015He enjoys nothing more than sitting out the back agreed but I would say he has improved on his front running and seems a good judge of pace when leading especially if he can stack them up for as long as possible before giving his mount a kick in the belly and shooting off for home.
Wentworth to me looks like a step up to 10f wouldn’t do him any harm, either that or he might not be as good as Hannon and Hughes think he is.
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July 20, 2013 at 07:32 #446047Not backed up by watching his races or reading the race reviews.
July 20, 2013 at 09:41 #446073Fair Enough each to their own and I’m probably the only one but I think Wentworth has finished his races well but loses ground when the pace quickens and cant go with them at the vital stage about 2 out. I reckon he has either not progressed from last year should of been winning the last race at Sandown, had no weight on his back in a good position or needs 10f….
This is a quote from the yard last year.
“I think he might be more of a French Derby horse but I wouldn’t knock the Guineas on the head – that lack of turn of foot today could have been down to him being weak. He’ll be a different horse next spring.”
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July 22, 2013 at 12:11 #446200I think you have to go for consistency on a thread like this – over a season a jock is always going to lose races he should have won or vice/versa, yet it’s the one who loses the least and wins more of the ones he had no right to that gets the vote. Therefore Ryan Moore gets my vote and Paul Hanagan seems to make very few mistakes and rides consistently well, be it Southwell or Sandown.
Onm the other hand, both Hughes and Murtagh in my book are motivated more by the big days than the bread and butter rides.
July 22, 2013 at 14:45 #446216Well Hanagan doesn’t ride very well at either of those two.
Nor does he generally ride as many winners or have a strike rate comparable to Hughes. In 2011, Hanagan rode 177 winners from 1209 rides. Hughes rode 177 winners from 859 rides last year, including Chepstow, Wolverhampton, Kempton and Lingfield. Not exactly glamourous races. -
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