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- February 3, 2009 at 23:11 #10168
Since it’s cold and I’m assuming you’re all bored, how about a little fun? (if I had the Racing Post’s website on my phone, this is what I’d be doing)
So yah, which horse recorded the highest RPR at Cartmel? If you’re extra bored, you could also get the highest ones for other ‘gaff’ tracks like Hexham, Hereford etc
February 3, 2009 at 23:23 #207982Hey pal, nothing wrong with Hereford!
February 4, 2009 at 01:17 #208008Nor Hexham
February 4, 2009 at 04:10 #208058People are looking at me like I know the answer to this…

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February 4, 2009 at 04:33 #208067I don’t know the answer as my records only go back 5 seasons, are for Hurdlers only and the RPR is for the winner only. However, during this time and meeting these conditions the highest RPR at Cartmel was this season on 23 August.
Handwins Handicap Hurdle (Class 3)
4yo+ 107-123 £6,262Los Nadis RPR 127
February 4, 2009 at 04:45 #208075Those apostrophes exonerate said courses from the official classification of gaff (apart from Hereford(it’s a personal thing)). I was simply wanting for a term for smaller course.
February 4, 2009 at 13:15 #208090People are looking at me like I know the answer to this…

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Too right we are!!
February 4, 2009 at 23:02 #208163Highest RPR for 2008 was Orpen Wide 130, 24 May 2008, Novices’ Chase.
I’m not so bored as to check another year.
February 4, 2009 at 23:43 #208180I’ve found higher still.
Indian Jockey ran to an adjudged RPR of 132 when making all in a 2m1.5f handicap chase under 12st on May 28th 1997 (good to firm). The 5yo’s time, 8.1 seconds faster than the
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‘s standard for course and distance, still holds as the track record to this day, if I’m not mistaken.
Stakes is raised. Anyone else?
Remember that the current BHA / BHB ratings mechanism has only been in place since autumn 1989, so don’t expect to find anything prior to that.gc
Jeremy Grayson. Son of immigrant. Adoptive father of two. Metadata librarian. Freelance point-to-point / horse racing writer, analyst and commentator wonk. Loves music, buses, cats, the BBC Micro, ale. Advocate of CBT, PACE and therapeutic parenting. Aspergers.
February 5, 2009 at 00:12 #208189GC never mind what the highest rated horse is at Cartmel i have an even better one.
What has been the lowest rated horse at Cartmel or indeed at any UK racecourse?
February 5, 2009 at 02:38 #208221We’d have to go off ORs, wouldn’t we, as some horses that finish unplaced or don’t finish aren’t accorded RPRs.
With that in mind, the lowest-rated animal I’ve ever encountered since the OR scale was revised just shy of 20 years ago was Crestina Crossett, a tiny Ted Caine homebred hurdler who was rated a staggering 35 by the end of her career in Spring 1992 (although her regularly running in low-grade handicaps from over two stone wrong frequently masked that).
The lowest chase OR I’ve seen is 37 for Reliance Leader, a novice handicap chaser for Dai Williams two years ago; though he did slightly ruin the fun on his first run at that mark when placing in a Plumpton contest and getting stuck back up well over a stone.
I wouldn’t presume these are definitely the lowest of their kind – I may well have missed others. Mojo and Lesmacadam are almost certainly the lowest-rated Flat horses in recent memory, though.
Jeremy
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February 5, 2009 at 12:47 #208260As of Tuesday, on the ratings taken from the BHA site, the lowest current ratings are:
Chases and Hurdles – 37 Hi Blue (Tracey Barfoot Saunt)
Nearest ‘challengers’ are Regal River (chases 46) and Clodagh Valley (hurdles 51)
Just as an aside, the lowest current Flat Rating takes some beating – Deer Park Lord rated 1(one)!
Rob
February 5, 2009 at 15:31 #208293Could somebody check a horse called Corrador(?) who won a handicap chase there during the Summer of 94? I’m sure he was pretty useful.
February 5, 2009 at 16:13 #208296Found a Corrado who was useful in the early 90’s but never ran at Cartmel
February 8, 2009 at 00:51 #208811Corrarder, Amat H’cap Chase, 30 May 94. RPR only 117.
February 9, 2009 at 06:14 #209117I’ve found higher still.
Indian Jockey ran to an adjudged RPR of 132 when making all in a 2m1.5f handicap chase under 12st on May 28th 1997 (good to firm). The 5yo’s time, 8.1 seconds faster than the
Post
‘s standard for course and distance, still holds as the track record to this day, if I’m not mistaken.
Stakes is raised. Anyone else?
Remember that the current BHA / BHB ratings mechanism has only been in place since autumn 1989, so don’t expect to find anything prior to that.gc
February 9, 2009 at 18:13 #209186Well played, that man!
But gosh, doesn’t the fact that it was a 0-145 handicap on hard ground date it. I guess they’ve not had either at the course very often since 1992!
Wonderful old horse Clever Folly, by the way – 25 wins from 75 chases, including four at Cartmel (this 0-145 in 1991 and 1992, by the looks of it), and bowed out with a win at Perth in August 1995 at the ripe old age of 15. After all of which, he truly earned himself the home for life he had at Norman Mason’s place in Brancepeth.
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