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That’s pretty good, Jez.
And, to continue Grasshopper’s theme, that bird on the video IS VERY MUCH MY TYPE…
That’s pretty good, Jez.
Aye. It’s not a Tranmer or a Quigley, Pruf, but it’ll more than suffice. I just need them to be added to the line-up of Latitude at the last minute, and allis well with the world…
I’m also seeing Tranmer’s old mucker Glenn Melia play under his St Christopher alias next month, for what must be the first time in Britain for years and years. In a parallel universe Melia would be revered like the fab economy-brand Ian McNabb-cum-Scott Walker he undoubtedly is – instead, this gig will be played to not very many people on a parked-up carriage inside a railway museum in Ripley, Derbyshire. Hey ho.
Jeremy
(graysonscolumn)Adoptive father of two. The patron saint of lower-grade fare. A gently critical friend of point-to-pointing. Kindness is a political act.
She looks better without the severe fringe, I reckon Pru.
In the Play Girl video, she looks quite beguiling, and not at all unlike my ex missus.
Which probably makes her a gold-plated fu*cking nutter.
They are indeed recognised genres, clivex, but I would regard as lazy anyone who automatically bracketed all music within a given genre as being poor without being prepared to be more specific. Which you have been. Sort of.
Come on now
Would i have to list which heavy metal bands i cannot listen to? Ie… all of them?
Baffled by this Gwen whatsherface obsession i must say. Got a boat like a blokes
Although shes apparently a bit of a cow always reckoned Danii Minogue would be a great shg
She looks better without the severe fringe, I reckon Pru.
In the Play Girl video, she looks quite beguiling, and not at all unlike my ex missus.
Which probably makes her a gold-plated fu*cking nutter.
LMAO
gc
Adoptive father of two. The patron saint of lower-grade fare. A gently critical friend of point-to-pointing. Kindness is a political act.
Ind(i)e is a very wide musical category and strictly describes a bands’ commercial associations, not a musical style, whatever lazy journalists might pretend. Unlike, say, heavy metal.
"droning guitar music with appalling vocals" is more precise and undoubtedly applies to some ind(i)e music. Including some of the best of it.
Goat by The Jesus Lizard is brilliant. I love that sound, it’s clearly what Nirvana were aiming for on In Utero (choosing the same producer emphasises that).
I’m mainly listening to the new Free Kitten album, which I think is their best album yet (which is praise indeed from me). With it’s multilayered vocals and contrapuntal guitars, which drift in and out, and intertwine, and drift again, over slow long songs – it’s like low-fi psychedelica, totally unique.
Marble, how you can find what Clivex wrote offensive I don’t know. None of the Scandanavian countries were commies. Finland was a commie country but it’s not Scandanavian.
It’s also worth noting that Jews don’t belong to an ethnic group but a religious one. Before you go off and get all offended on their behalf.
What about Phillip Glass’s classical reworkings of Bowie’s classic albums? Isn’t Bowie a rock star? Of course in your compartmentalised world the notion of cross over of genres is alien.
Phillip Glass along with most modern Classical composers needs a bullet IMVHO
I also detest ‘crossover’ be that Macartney’s attempt at the Classical genre, the LSO’s renditions of Pop songs, Kennedy’s ghastly violin reworking of Hendrix or Te Kanawa’s opera-diva brutalising of Jazz/Swing standards
Much as the forced cheeriness of Classic FM gets on my wick, it is to be applauded for blowing a gust of fresh air into the stuffy cloistered world of the ‘classics’
Compartmentalising music is a mistake – good music is good music whatever its classification: vive la difference
I defy anyone to listen to these…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZm3JbzFzrQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiZlAmHa7QI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmWRnbxACH0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYl0iMSlMQg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Jg3qUeJ8xk
…and not be moved by their exquisite beauty
“Indie” is a term invented by the modern media and has nothing to do with what the term originally meant – ie. a group signed to an independent label rather than a major, and therefore one that usually produced more unconventional and challenging pieces.
Quite. I nearly put my foot through the record fair’s tressle tables one day in 1993, when, on picking up volume 18 of Beechwood’s hitherto immaculate and varied proper indie series Indie Top 20, I noticed that they’d completely abandoned their principles and included a whole load of major label guitar acts du jour (e.g. Blur, Carter USM)
That some of those acts were ones I didn’t mind wasn’t really the point – that the series was taking its first steps towards being as indistinguishably generic as many others on the market was.
Most galling of all was the write-up on the inner sleeve of the CD from one Tim Millington (that surname follows me around everywhere…), who had evidently assumed compilation duties from Chet and Bee Selwood; “Let’s face it, who gives a toss how the music is distributed!” Erm, well your predecessors did…
Do Sigur Ros not have more in common with Classical composers than the Rock/Pop category they occupy in HMV?
Emphatically so. Note to self: must add new Sigur Ros long-player to wish-list.
gc
Adoptive father of two. The patron saint of lower-grade fare. A gently critical friend of point-to-pointing. Kindness is a political act.
Dave…i take little notice of Marble frankly…It was a joke aimed at Grasshopper anyway
Firefox…how thick are you?
I clearly stated i dislike the droning guitars (my least fav instrument) and bad vocals as well as the very conservative structure that charcterises most inde music. Its not my sound. Just as Pan Pipes wouldnt be other some peoples sound either
Get it? Understand? Should i spell it out more slowly?
I also am baffled at the laughable attention inde gets. But tahts anoither matter
Phillip Glass along with most modern Classical composers needs a bullet IMVHO
I also detest ‘crossover’ be that Macartney’s attempt at the Classical genre, the LSO’s renditions of Pop songs, Kennedy’s ghastly violin reworking of Hendrix or Te Kanawa’s opera-diva brutalising of Jazz/Swing standards
No time for Phlip Glass myself either, but Kennedy (who is depsite image, a wonderful violinist) was ok with the jazz stuff i thought
And would you call John Coltranes Greensleeves crossover?
18 of Beechwood’s hitherto immaculate and varied proper indie series Indie Top 20
Aha
Knew Beechwood well. Based in shepperton studios, they built their fortune on superbly put togther soul/jazz/funk collections. Cant recall the compliers name, but he knew his stuff. He was poached by BMG i think
An unexpectedly enjoyable collection (even if you dont go much for dance/club music) is the Salsoul compliation
Visited them a few times when in music industry. Nice people
Then for whateever reason, it all went a bit downhill. Inevitably the material runs down but later compilations were little more than what they could pick up cheaply (i felt). Bad "live" recordings and so on
Firefox the moderation team think you give out as good as you get, well this bit of it does anyway. Saying that someone might pull the whole thread if you mis-call a tipster or Jesus.
Well weird.
WTF is he on about? Why does my dislike of boring white art student guitar driven bands bother you so much? Interesting… Most people simply enjoy the music they do without getting woildly defensive. Touched a nerve i think
Now you have wriggled to condense it down to "indie" music. A completely different genre in most people’s minds, and one U2 have never belonged to – neither in terms of the modern accepted definition of indie as a musical style, or the original definition i.e. being signed to an independent record lablel – U2’s first single was released on Island Records, who were not an "independent" label.
Ok then
I dislike U2 and most Inde music…so what?
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