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July 4, 2008 at 13:53 #171677
Wondering when you would stick your nose in…
Strike day is it?
July 4, 2008 at 14:02 #171678"The only enemy of art is taste" (Thomas Hoving)
July 4, 2008 at 14:35 #171688I suppose that the media coverage given most especially to Inde bands does my head in Grasshopper
Same old droning guitars from politically correct northern students moaning away
Verse verse Chorus blah
A deeply conservative strain of music too. Its as if the barriers broken down by the Beatles never happened
And they sneered at Jay zee…
July 4, 2008 at 14:49 #171696I suppose that the media coverage given most especially to Inde bands does my head in Grasshopper
Same old droning guitars from politically correct northern students moaning away
Verse verse Chorus blah
A deeply conservative strain of music too. Its as if the barriers broken down by the Beatles never happened
And they sneered at Jay zee…
Fairly broad brush-strokes there, Clive.
I’m sure Liam Gallagher would slit your face from here to here if you deigned to call him PC to his face. Or a student, for that matter.
Further, the most right-on of the successful guitar-toting acts at present are, for the greater part, based in London and the Home Counties – Bloc Party, Radiohead, Coldplay if you absolutely must, and so on.
Maximo Park are from the North East, and have similarly enjoyed a fine last 12-15 months, but they don’t seem to stand for an awful lot, other than jumping up and down and severe comb-overs. Ditto The Wombats, geographically Liverpudlian but politically no fixed abode.
I mention all this in the interests of accuracy rather than to defend or endorse any of the acts in question, only two of whom I have much time for – they’re mostly a bit safe and calculated for a bloke whose stock in trade is mostly whatever weird stuff John Peel played or would have played.
Jay-Z at Glastonbury we’ve already covered tangentially in the Big Brother thread – I was delighted that he wasn’t scared off headlining by Oasis’s Neanderthal grunts, and more delighted still when he played one of the sets of the weekend.
Jeremy
(graysonscolumn)Adoptive father of two. The patron saint of lower-grade fare. A gently critical friend of point-to-pointing. Kindness is a political act.
July 4, 2008 at 15:03 #171698I’m sure Liam Gallagher would slit your face from here to here if you deigned to call him PC to his face. Or a student, for that matter.
LOL
The one band i had a bit of time for too
As it happens Noel’s studio is next to my offices and see him quite often. Friendly bloke as it happens
July 4, 2008 at 15:08 #171702Clivex, could you be more specific about which kinds of Ind(i)e acts you so despise, as I think it is unfair to bracket them all together musically?
Regarding the "limitations" of the 3.5-minute pop song, I prefer to see it as subject to similar constraints as those that apply when writing a sonnet.
There is much more to literature than sonnets, but there is much to be admired in being able to convey clear and original meanings within the prescribed ABBA of a sonnet scheme, or for that matter within the pop ditties of ABBA.
So to speak.
Pru
July 4, 2008 at 15:43 #171715To go off on a tangent slightly there are the odd "popular" artists that create 15 minute plus masterpieces to for want of a better word equate with classical type music.
Two that spring to mind are Jethro Tull – A Passion Play and the quite brilliant Foreigner Suite by Cat Stevens.
As I’ve mentioned previously on this thread I keep going back to Nick Drake ( particularly in the summer for some reason ) . I think I remember reading that musicians trying to replicate his sound on some of his songs have been unable to do so because of the way he set up his guitar. I never tire of listening to his music and the arrangements by Robert Kirby who also arranged a song on the fantastic House On The Hill album by Audience.
July 4, 2008 at 15:48 #171716As I’ve mentioned previously on this thread I keep going back to Nick Drake ( particularly in the summer for some reason ) .
I know what you mean ~ I keep going back to Natalie Imbruglia’s gaff, but now she’s talking restraining orders, so I may have to lay low for a while.
July 4, 2008 at 15:55 #171718David Gray’s Life In Slow Motion – he’s got a grouse voice.
…and a wobbly head.
Playing at Chez Column at present are the following:
The Orchids – Good To Be A Stranger
First outing in 13 years from Glaswegian softie-pop exponents and John Peel faves, formerly of the legendary Sarah Records.Gnac – Twelve Sidelong Glances
One half of the Montgolfier Brothers’ latest collection of post-impressionistic, mainly keyboard-driven instrumentals with more than a nod to Durutti Column and Eric Satie. I suspect Prufrock will be procuring a copy of this as well before long.Blonde Redhead – 23
Former US / Japanese riot grrrrrrrrl act got bored with waiting for My Bloody Valentine to follow up Loveless (16 years and counting!) and made one of their own. Mysterious, feedback / FX pedal-heavy splendidness.Camera Obscura – Let’s Get Out Of This Country
Magnificent, often cinematic indiepop from enduring Scottish indiepoppers and one of those rare collections where practically everything would stand being released as a single. Bonus clever-dick points for naming one track “Lloyd, I’m Ready To Be Heartbroken”!Jeremy
(graysonscolumn)Blonde Redhead? You surprise me!
Have most of their stuff on either CD or Vinyl.
Melody .. LP is amazing, all the way through. Perfect recording.
They also have an EP with the 3rd or 4th track (can’t remember name) sung in Italian .. one of my all time favourite songs .. think it’s called Che e e non e.
July 4, 2008 at 16:00 #171719As I’ve mentioned previously on this thread I keep going back to Nick Drake ( particularly in the summer for some reason ) .
I know what you mean ~ I keep going back to Natalie Imbruglia’s gaff, but now she’s talking restraining orders, so I may have to lay low for a while.
Natalie Imbruglia’s got a gaff ?! I didn’t know she was in to dealing with heavy fish.
July 4, 2008 at 16:04 #171721Clivex, could you be more specific about which kinds of Ind(i)e acts you so despise, as I think it is unfair to bracket them all together musically?
Why not?
Its mostly droning guitar music with appalling vocals. With a few exceptions, its a sound that i dislike.
Isnt heavy metal (cant stand that either) largely bracketed as one?
Country music too?
Hip hop? Disco? Rap?
July 4, 2008 at 16:14 #171726Here’s my take on the current music scene:
I’d love to give that Gwen Stefani one………….
Thanks for listening.
July 4, 2008 at 16:17 #171727Definately not my type…cold scandinavian commie look
thought Claire Short would have been your fantasy …grasshopper?
July 4, 2008 at 16:19 #171731Blonde Redhead? You surprise me!
In what way? The earlier, noisier stuff sits closely enough next to Le Tigre, Bikini Kill, etc for my tastes, and the more recent, ethereal recordings next to any number of 4AD acts. It all floats my boat.
Meanwhile, this week I are bin mostly playing…
LADYTRON – GHOST
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEBg0b8hoUsgc
Adoptive father of two. The patron saint of lower-grade fare. A gently critical friend of point-to-pointing. Kindness is a political act.
July 4, 2008 at 16:22 #171732They are indeed recognised genres, clivex, but I would regard as lazy anyone who automatically bracketed all music within a given genre as being poor without being prepared to be more specific. Which you have been. Sort of.
Saw Blonde Redhead at a festival in The Hague in 1998 (I think it was). Mildly enjoyable, imo.
July 4, 2008 at 16:24 #171733Grasshopper
I thought your music tastes wouldn’t have got past Buddy Holly and The Crickets ! Ha ha ha ha ha ha …….
I’ll get me coat
July 4, 2008 at 16:25 #171735I saw them somewhere near Kings Cross a few years back, great gig. The female of the trio is absolutely gorgeous!
Jeremy,
I have quite a lot of records back in Cork which are not being used (nor will be) – let me know if you are interested. A Bikini Kill or two lurk amongst them, along with several The Jesus Lizard.The Jesus Lizard – now, they were a good band..
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