The home of intelligent horse racing discussion
The home of intelligent horse racing discussion

What a disappointing race!

Home Forums Horse Racing What a disappointing race!

Viewing 15 posts - 1 through 15 (of 166 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #7084
    Salselon
    Member
    • Total Posts 883

    Neptune Collonges proximity says it all.

    Well done Denman though.

    #150968
    Bulwark
    Member
    • Total Posts 3119

    The staying race that was expected never looked to have materialised, that looked really slow, almost like denman had first run but still thought Kauto would have picked up better, has kauto just explained that massive drfit the other week?

    #150969
    davidjohnson
    Member
    • Total Posts 4492

    Completely disagree. Neptune Collonges has always had the potential to be a 170+ chaser given that sort of test of stamina. A fabulous race.

    #150970
    Salselon
    Member
    • Total Posts 883

    Must add Denman did jump very, very well. Powerhouse.

    Was it me or did he look to be tiring in the run in?

    #150971
    Salselon
    Member
    • Total Posts 883

    Completely disagree. Neptune Collonges has always had the potential to be a 170+ chaser given that sort of test of stamina. A fabulous race.

    So, you think NC should be that close to Kauto Star? Please.

    #150972
    Flash
    Member
    • Total Posts 1149

    Disagree I thought it was brilliant. Denman just cracked Kauto Star. We have some of the best horses around now over fences that we’ve ever seen or ever will see. Denman – what can you say.

    1 2 3 for Paul Nicholls.

    Finally well done and a big thankyou to Paul Barber, Harry Findlay and Clive Smith for not ducking the issue.

    Thanks guys for giving us the occasion of a lifetime.

    #150973
    graysonscolumngraysonscolumn
    Participant
    • Total Posts 6929

    A great race, but maybe not a wholly conclusive event.

    As you say, Bulwark, they didn’t appear to go off especially hard early on, but rather than Kauto potentially having something on him, I think a distinct lack of fluency from a fairly early stage – certainly before the pace was increased – always had him having too much to do.

    All set for a rematch, I think!

    gc

    The patron saint of lower-grade fare. A gently critical friend of point-to-pointing. Kindness is a political act.

    #150974
    Seventy Four
    Participant
    • Total Posts 155

    Well so much for all the hype.

    I think it confirms what I have always thought – this present bunch of steeplechasers is nothing special.

    Expecting flames, but don’t care. :lol:

    #150975
    RichKRichK
    Participant
    • Total Posts 204

    That race was always going to be disappointing, compared to the anticipation (I’m not saying the race was over hyped, just that it was so anticipated).

    As a Kauto fan, I feel a bit deflated but by God, what a festival – Inglis Drever, Master Minded and Denman.

    #150977
    davidjohnson
    Member
    • Total Posts 4492

    Kauto Star didn’t jump well enough to be at his best but he’s still probably run to something in the mid 170’s IMO.

    #150978
    Maxilon 5Maxilon 5
    Member
    • Total Posts 2434

    They’re both back safe and the best horse won. A great race I thought. Thoroughly enjoyed it.

    #150979
    Gazs Way De SolzenGazs Way De Solzen
    Member
    • Total Posts 2441

    Denman did to Kauto Star there what Denman did to the field in the Hennessy.

    Kauto Star has never had a horse of the ability, power and jumping prowess to lead them around the track. Kauto Star has had things his own way a lot of the time.

    This time round, Denman has been put at the front for the second lap, which has tested Kauto Star, tested him properly for one of the first times i can remember, i.e. not having things his own way and having another horse dictating events to him, and he has had too much in the locker for Kauto Star, at the end of the day.

    Denman has performed to his strengths here, has got Kauto Star struggling in the same vane that he had the Hennessy field struggling at Newbury, and there was nothing that could be done.

    Denman is an excellent horse, today has showed that.

    #150980
    Ken1
    Member
    • Total Posts 82

    The way Denman was jumping and travelling, Kauto Star needed to jump fluently to compete. He didn’t.

    Both looked to be tired on the run in, Denman may have started to idle. Neptune Collonges appeared to be relishing the ground. Glad Kauto got 2nd though.

    Nice race to watch.

    #150981
    Flash
    Member
    • Total Posts 1149

    Kauto Star didn’t jump well enough to be at his best but he’s still probably run to something in the mid 170’s IMO.

    The conditions are a lot slower this year and Sam Thomas upped the gallop mid race on Denman and kept going and going, brilliant ride. It was a war of attrition and Kauto couldn’t cope. To finish second I thought was as a hell of a run considering he wasn’t ridden for second and tracked Denman a few lengths off all the way.

    Racing is the winner today.

    #150982
    DroneDrone
    Participant
    • Total Posts 5085

    Completely disagree. Neptune Collonges has always had the potential to be a 170+ chaser given that sort of test of stamina. A fabulous race.

    Spot on DJ. Neptune Collonges is young, progressive and unexposed. No great surprise he ran a good race.

    Personally I thought Denman was superb, and initially I’m loath to criticise Kauto one jot

Viewing 15 posts - 1 through 15 (of 166 total)
  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.