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    Avatar photoCork All Star
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    https://www.racingtv.com/news/valiant-prince-strolls-home-at-chelmsford-at-odds-of-1-40

    I suppose someone was crazy enough to have £40 to win £1.

    Has there ever been a shorter priced winner? I cannot remember one.

    I am sure I can recall one or two occasions where the favourite was such a certainty that no SPs were returned.

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    The jockey on the second did all they could to finish as far back as possible

    Didnt want to ruin the handicap mark after travelling strongly

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    There was a 1/66 winner at Beverley in 1999

    And here’s a tale about it:
    https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/racing-punter-at-loss-over-166-shot-1096057.html

    I recall ‘no odds returned’ happening occasionally when on and off course betting tax were levied, as this imposition would have rendered a very long odds-on shot a near-infinite odds-on shot :yes:

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    Potentate won a four-runner novices’ chase at 1/12, again in 1999. Not sure if that is a record shortest winning SP for the Jumps.

    Tree Of Liberty was beaten into second in a three-runner novices’ chase at 1/20 in 2018. The horse that beat him was Cap’n, a horse who made his racing debut as a 6 year-old in the Group 2 Long Distance Cup at Ascot! Cap’n was then set some other impossible tasks against the likes of Buveur D’Air before his moment of glory came when he overturned the 1/20 shot.

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    Well done, Google :good:

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    Google didn’t deliver the goods completely Tank! I couldn’t establish if Potentate was the record holder :-(

    Some of what I post on here does come from my own memory, but I’m certainly not averse to a good Google hunt! I find things involving records and extreme stats and stuff like that really interesting.

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    Fair Play

    #1558899
    Avatar photoThe Tatling Cheekily
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    I had a cool million in cash with Betfred down Scunthorpe high street. It was like pistols at dawn as Kathy at the till fearlessly accepted my Lonsdale rucksack full of readies, without even a thought for a cowardly call to Head Office. I felt trepadation as her eyes narrowed, and mouth twisted, in a seemingy conscious spaghetti-western fashion.

    I was surrounded by a gaggle of excited men clutching cans of white cider, as I punched the air, and basked in my 5 minutes of fame, receiving backslaps and requests for loans galore, after securing the easiest £25k I have ever won.

    The lemon sucking wench behind the counter even threw in one of those really strong Aldi ‘Bags for Life’ to fit the extra readies in when paying out with nary a smile in sight.

    What a day to be alive.

    BUY THE SUN

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    Great replies everyone. Don’t spend it all at once, TTC!

    1/66! Makes last night’s winner look like a long shot!

    I do remember the 1/20 chance getting beaten but did not know about his conqueror’s back story.

    I think Henderson had a very short priced winner at Kelso once upon a time. Presumably he walked the track beforehand and decided the ground was just safe enough to risk it. ;-)

    I seem to recall that the great Dancing Brave was responsible for one occasion when no SPs were returned, when he won a race at Goodwood in preparation for his famous Arc win.

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    Maybe I am going mad here but I have just checked the Tote returns and the winner is shown as paying £6.40.

    I wondered at first if it was a misprint but I have checked four sites now and they are all showing the same.

    Presumably no one thought it was worth backing the horse.

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    In the days of betting tax the “no odds returned” alluded to by Drone was a more frequent occurrence as on-course anything 1/25 or worse wasn’t worth backing with a 4% tax.

    I think the Guineas Book Of Records has a section on this and in pari-mutuel countries with tiny units of currency odds can be even shorter.

    IIRC Lester Piggott ride a horse at 1/10,000 in Italy once – it won all out by a short head!

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    I remember Juveigneur (trained by Mr Henderson) winning a novices’ hurdle at Plumpton in February 2007 at 1-20.

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    I remember Juveigneur at those odds
    The Kelso horse would have been Zaynar ??

    Blackbeard to conquer the World

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    Just googled Zaynar
    got turned over at Kelso 1/14 second of 4 by a length

    Blackbeard to conquer the World

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    That’s the one I remembered without Google Nathan.

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    Thinking more about this, IIRC in the days of 10% off-course tax I think No Sp was returned if the favourite was 1/10 or shorter and you only started seeing really short ones of that order after the abolition of betting tax.

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    Douvan won the Irish Arkle at 1/14 and the following season started at the same price for his prep race for the QMCC.

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