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I know the all-weather pedants will have a go at me, but have to laugh at today’s two all weather meetings at Lingfield and Wolves being abandoned… because of the weather
I wonder what ATR will show today instead, I know it won’t be a review of all the meetings they’ve never shown
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Noun 1. pedant – a person who pays more attention to formal rules and book learning than they meritBelieve me, Wolvo and Lingy wouldn’t have taken the decision to abandon lightly – both courses are located in the amber warning sections of the country, and the rate of snow this morning has been incredible. Obviously it would’ve taken a huge effort to clear the snow off the track but its more to do with the accessibility into the complexes, spectator and staff safety and also horse safety for the reasons why they were called off. I do agree that cancelling an AW meeting due to the weather is a touch ironic, but safety has to be the number one priority.
The turf snobs never miss an opportunity to poke fun at AW tracks do they?
These tracks will be racing as soon as it is safe to do so, if trainers can get horses there, not easy in the case of Lingfield.I've stumbled on the side of twelve misty mountains
I've walked and I crawled on six crooked highwaysListening to the interview Neil Mackenzie-Ross gave on ATR, the point I found interesting was thatr the nature of the surface made it vulnerable to heavy snow and that it was impossible in such conditions to harrow the track.
I’m wondering if this is a problem with the new generation of Polytrack surfaces in that they can’t cope with heavy snow but can cope with cold. It’s an interesting one.
Oddly enough, my recollection is that it’s easier to harrow Fibresand in heavy snow.
Knowing the location, the problem they have is that while they might be able to get the surface raceable, access (especially if there are problems getting into Lingfield from the A22) may force their hand if there are poor conditions overnight.
The snow hasn’t been too severe in the London area so far – especially compared to further west – and I think Lingfield and Kempton will be back with us tomorrow.
Thank God for the snow , it temporarily relives the tedium of endless 0/60 dross from the aw tracks
We were due to get extra meetings to keep the bookies tills full during the bad weather period , time after time , the BHA will ensure we get extra dross to bet on , all for the Levy
How pathetic , the greatest racing nation in the world reduced to dross and all for a few pennies from the bookies who rule
Snow for a week please , the respite will be wonderful, the bookies/bha will be hating each minute
Hurrah
imo
Ricky
I’m amazed that Lingfield is off I don’t live that far from the course and the snow wasn’t that bad this morning but is getting heavier this afternoon.
What was that course they used to show racing from 20/30 years ago during the bad winters, Sterrebeek? Anyone know if its still there?
"The snow hasn’t been too severe in the London area so far – especially compared to further west – and I think Lingfield and Kempton will be back with us tomorrow."
I am about 5 miles from Kempton – cannot, see them racing unless the weather improves.
It has stopped snowing at the moment but, more is forecast.
Regards
The " all weather " surface has nothing to do with public roads and causeways being deemed unsafe.
Lingfield All Weather ( apart from where you walk and drive ) Raceourse is a tad long.
I do recall Arena tried the term "Winter Flat Racing" a few years ago but it never really caught on.
Apart from those who don’t like Winter Flat racing (and no one forces you to watch it or bet on it), the fact is you could have the best-prepared track in the world but not only would you always be vulnerable to fog or high winds but you can’t make the surrounding area secure in weather terms.
The problem for Lingfield is as much getting to and from the track as with the surface itself.
As for tomorrow, the forecast sounds better for both Lingfield and Kempton while Naas seem likely to race as well.
The tag ‘all-weather’ that the instigator of this thread uses has been well exposed as a misnomer on this Forum, and those involved with the four courses with artificial surfaces would acknowledge they can never claim to beat all weather. A sudden large fall of snow is just one of those things that we have to put up with. The sport will survive a day without racing.
Rob
I know the all-weather pedants will have a go at me, but have to laugh at today’s two all weather meetings at Lingfield and Wolves being abandoned… because of the weather
I wonder what ATR will show today instead, I know it won’t be a review of all the meetings they’ve never shown
No not quite, but (after the SA racing) a review of some of the meetings this week, including Ffos Las, which they managed to screw up on Wednesday morning, so redeemed themselves slightly. Still didn’t manage to show complete races though.
Luckily the AW racing was abandoned late, otherwise they would probably have scraped together a mind numbingly boring chat fest instead.
....and you've got to look a long way back for anything else.
The tag ‘all-weather’ that the instigator of this thread uses has been well exposed as a misnomer on this Forum, and those involved with the four courses with artificial surfaces would acknowledge they can never claim to beat all weather.
Absolutely right – we’ve been here as recently as the start of December, haven’t we, when Wolverhampton’s temporary and Southwell’s somewhat longer misfortunes elicited a not dissimilar response. Further reading:
http://thatracingblog.blogspot.co.uk/20 … eight.html
The only difference between now and then is that the need for blanket eight-race cards as opposed to seven appears to have lessened somewhat. How much of that is the consequence of a now dwindling/overraced pool of Polytrack performers compared to then, however, and how much that of a few more esoteric races being programmed (2m claimers aren’t typically the thing of 14-runner fields, for example), is entirely open to debate.
gc
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Certainly gives the lie to the expression "all-weather".
"Some weather", "most weather" or "all-weather if the weather doesn’t get too bad" might be more appropriate.
Paul Ostermeyer’s insistence on using the term "artificial surface", including using the initials "AS" in his fixture listings on his website, is certainly being justified again.
Certainly gives the lie to the expression "all-weather".
"Some weather", "most weather" or "all-weather if the weather doesn’t get too bad" might be more appropriate.
Paul Ostermeyer’s insistence on using the term "artificial surface", including using the initials "AS" in his fixture listings on his website, is certainly being justified again.
How about "Artificial Racing Surface" or ARS for short?
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