October 28, 2003 at 13:28 #3287
… at the age of 28 in America.
[edit – sorry Rory, should have seen your post first!]
(Edited by RichK at 1:30 pm on Oct. 28, 2003)October 28, 2003 at 13:40 #81438
Much missed horse, but moral winner my arse.October 28, 2003 at 13:43 #81439
I know Dawn Run was a popular winner and all that, but everytime I see the race again, I’m willing Wayward Lad to hold back the mare. One day he will (just as crisp will last home one day) :)October 28, 2003 at 13:49 #81440
The horse didnt stay up the hill full stop. If he had a prep run, i dont think it would be any different. I know it was an exciting, probably the most exciting of any gold cup, but Dawn Run in the did win by well over a length in the end, closer to two. The fact that she was able to win the champion hurdle over 2m seems to be forgotten by those who knock her.
Wayward lad was slightly before my time, and i dont appreciate him as much as some. I can only remember him well from the major races, gold cups, KGs, and a race at Liverpool where he fell. Lovely looking horse.October 28, 2003 at 14:28 #81441
He was indeed the most sublime jumper of a fence ~ really poetry in motion, but I do have a book of horses to follow dated 1980/81 which noted him as being an immensely talented but error prone novice chaser. I’m always amused by that thought…October 28, 2003 at 14:38 #81442clivexMember
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he was definately the moral winner!
There was a very generous mares allowance which made it for Dawn Run. Why do these allowances exist in championship races when horses are fully matured and developed? fair enough for fillies, but fully grown big mares?
Wayward, like the great Desert orchid, was never really a Cheltenham horse and didnt have the luck that desert did
Personally i got a bit sick of some of the drivel that surrounded Dawn Run although the accident was sadOctober 28, 2003 at 14:56 #81443
I was going to give a prize for the first person to mention the five pounds allowance. An arguement that doesnt stand much analysis IMHO.
Tell me how many mares have used this generous allowance to run in a gold cup, never mind to win it.
Why are there separate races for mature and developed men and women in athlethics? Is there any world record held by a woman that is better than the mens record? Why?
Anyway, I have a hobby horse on Dawn Run and dont mean to hijack WL RIP. He obviously was a very good horse, but he wasnt the best horse not to win a gold cup, and he wasnt the moral winner of the 86 gold cup.
Wayward ladOctober 28, 2003 at 15:24 #81444MullyMember
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No doubt about it, a fabulous horse. Totally agree with MH though, this horse did not stay up the hill. The same thing happened in the 1987 GC. Wayward Lad came to the last with every chance, but just couldn’t hold on .<br>At least he had a long and happy retirement.October 28, 2003 at 15:45 #81445
….unlike Silver Buck. Was reading recently about his demise, when in the veteran stage and surely only months from retirement. Now there was an end that didn’t fit a great horse.October 28, 2003 at 16:08 #81446
What happened him Rory? Training/racecourse accident.October 28, 2003 at 17:57 #81447
Silver Buck was still in training when he was killed at the Dickenson’s yard. He ran into a wall after being spooked (he was very highly strung).
I forget the details – Bradley describes the event in that book someone wrote for him. IIRC he was blamed at the time, but I don’t think it was necessarily his fault.October 28, 2003 at 18:04 #81448
Silver Buck was apparently always an extremely nervous horse, and although close to retirement, he remained in training at the start of the 1984/85 season at the age of 12.
No one knows quite what happened, and it seems bizarre that a horse of his experience should react in such a way, but just as Graham Bradley began to mount him to go to the gallops, Silver Buck spooked and ran headlong into the wall of the stable yard at Harewood, sustaining fatal injuries.
I took it that he might be retired at the end of the 83/84 season, as he was patently in decline, and when he didn’t run in any of the early season events that he would be expected to contest, that’s exactly what I thought, until John Oaksey referred to "the ill fated Silver Buck" on Channel 4 (or was it still ITV then?). The words seemed as brutal as the event must have been.
He was one of my all time favourite horses and produced one of the great races when beating Night Nurse in the Embassy Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â Final at Haydock ~ he deserved better.
(Edited by rory at 8:05 pm on Oct. 28, 2003)October 28, 2003 at 18:29 #81449
For the sake of interest, Wayward Lad’s Gold Cup record was as follows:
83 ~ 3rd beaten 6 1/2 lengths by Bregawn, ridden by Jonjo O’Neill @ 6/1<br>84 ~ PU behind Burrough Hill Lad, ridden by Robert Earnshaw @ 6/4 F<br>85 ~ 8th behind Forgive N’ Forget, ridden by Robert Earnshaw @ 8/1<br>86 ~ 2nd beaten 1 length by Dawn Run, ridden by Graham Bradley @ 8/1<br>87 ~ 5th behind The Thinker, ridden by Graham Bradley @11/1October 28, 2003 at 21:06 #81450cormack15Keymaster
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One of my very favourite horses from the NH code. Brave, talented and game, he was a credit to the Dickinson yard. Reading here about him has brought many happy memories flooding back, including the 1986 Gold Cup which, like many people, is one of my favourite races.<br>Glad he had a long and comfortable retirement. He certainly deserved it.October 28, 2003 at 22:18 #81451guskennedyMember
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Wayward Lad was indeed a terrific jumper of fences but I always thought the thing that set him apart was his speed away from a fence. He seemed to land running in a way I’d never seen before and haven’t seen since. At their peak the Dickinsons had a conveyor belt of top-class jumpers, trained and schooled to perfection, and this fellow epitomised it.
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