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5 length winner of the Arc (not all out), with a neck between Orfevre and Intello (who had improvement in him) and 2 lengths back to Kizuna.
That has to be close to, may be even better than any other performance by a female racehorse.
Value Is EverythingZarkava?
Not sure Zarkava produced anything quite like that, although she may have been capable.
Given the opposition and race, it is certainly up there.
Pebbles ( Champion Stakes ) and Dahlia ( King George ) are two obvious notable and impressive successes in recent decades.
However, the most impressive winner by any filly ( or mare ) in a classic/Group 1 was by Humble Duty in the 1970 1,000 Guineas.
Trust me, you will never see an easier winner of any classic, anywhere. She was ridden by Lester Piggott. Absolutely sauntered home: it bordered on nonchalance. See the race on YouTube. Seeing is believing.
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Zarkava?
Zarkava’s Arc performance was: Beat Youmzain 2 lengths, with a dead heat between It’s Gino and Soldiar Of Fortune, with 1 length to Vision D’Etat. Albeit had a bit in hand.
She beat Dar Re Me 2 lengths in the Vermaille.Were either of those performances better than Treve’s today Rich?
Value Is EverythingGiven the opposition and race, it is certainly up there.
Pebbles ( Champion Stakes ) and Dahlia ( King George ) are two obvious notable and impressive successes in recent decades.
However, the most impressive winner by any filly ( or mare ) in a classic/Group 1 was by Humble Duty in the 1970 1,000 Guineas.
Trust me, you will never see an easier winner of any classic, anywhere. She was ridden by Lester Piggott. Absolutely sauntered home: it bordered on nonchalance. See the race on YouTube. Seeing is believing.
I’m not putting her in the same company Himself, but Sariska in the Irish Oaks was laughably easy, looked like she’d started at the furlong pole and I’d say passed the border in to nonchalance territory.
Once the euphoria has faded, some will crab the slow early pace, saying Treve didn’t win a true run race.
But she looks the part to me. The proof of the pudding won’t be found until she is beaten or retired. That’s what I love about unbeaten horses – sometimes you need to wait years to find out how good they actually are.
Simon Rowlands of Timeform has her down as running a sub-12 second last furlong. Thankfully, she stays in training, and we can only hope she remains injury free.
I’ve not yet seen her dubbed ‘the female Frankel’, but it can only be a matter of hours/days.
This just posted on twitter . . .
Treve’s final quarter was 22.92, Moonlight Cloud’s was 23.79
Given the opposition and race, it is certainly up there.
Pebbles ( Champion Stakes ) and Dahlia ( King George ) are two obvious notable and impressive successes in recent decades.
However, the most impressive winner by any filly ( or mare ) in a classic/Group 1 was by Humble Duty in the 1970 1,000 Guineas.
Trust me, you will never see an easier winner of any classic, anywhere. She was ridden by Lester Piggott. Absolutely sauntered home: it bordered on nonchalance. See the race on YouTube. Seeing is believing.
That’s an interesting one H. What did 1970 1000 Guineas 2nd and 3rd Gleam and Black Satin do? Were they any good?
Value Is EverythingThis just posted on twitter . . .
Treve’s final quarter was 22.92, Moonlight Cloud’s was 23.79
Surely not!!??
Considering she was completely wound up before and during the race and still won on the bridle by 5 lengths I would say it was up there with the best.
Having said that, I think it might be worth doing some scientific studies on the weight-for-age and female allowances as I suspect they are a shade generous.
5 length winner of the Arc (not all out), with a neck between Orfevre and Intello (who had improvement in him) and 2 lengths back to Kizuna.
That has to be close to, may be even better than any other performance by a female racehorse.
How about Danedream in the 2011 renewal ? So You Think, Workforce, St Nic, Snow Fairy 5L+ behind ?
Am I correct in thinking that the track record was also smashed that day ?
5 length winner of the Arc (not all out), with a neck between Orfevre and Intello (who had improvement in him) and 2 lengths back to Kizuna.
That has to be close to, may be even better than any other performance by a female racehorse.
How about Danedream in the 2011 renewal ? So You Think, Workforce, St Nic, Snow Fairy 5L+ behind ?
Am I correct in thinking that the track record was also smashed that day ?
So You Think was not at his best over 12f, St Nic was a decent horse on his day but just short of top class, Workforce had completely gone backwards in 2011. Snow Fairy ran well that day.
Overall I would say that today’s field was marginally stronger.
Once the euphoria has faded, some will crab the slow early pace, saying Treve didn’t win a true run race.
But she looks the part to me. The proof of the pudding won’t be found until she is beaten or retired. That’s what I love about unbeaten horses – sometimes you need to wait years to find out how good they actually are.
Simon Rowlands of Timeform has her down as running a sub-12 second last furlong. Thankfully, she stays in training, and we can only hope she remains injury free.
I’ve not yet seen her dubbed ‘the female Frankel’, but it can only be a matter of hours/days.
I’m going to watch the race again tomorrow and although my initials thoughts were that the slow pace allowed her to take up a position other high drawn horses have been unable to in previous years…
i thought is was a brilliant performance. The two horses closest to her are exceptional horses on their day.
Never ceases to amaze me though how jockeys allow themselves to get into trouble on courses like that.
Might not have been a " truly run " race but the form is rock solid.
So You Think was not at his best over 12f, St Nic was a decent horse on his day but just short of top class, Workforce had completely gone backwards in 2011. Snow Fairy ran well that day.
Overall I would say that today’s field was marginally stronger.
I was just about to say the same AOTF. Is a 5 length win over Shareta as good as 5 lengths to Orfevre? Excellent though it was, Danedream not quite up to Treve (imo).
Pebbles, Allez France, Habibti, Oh So sharp, Bosra Sham and of course Black Caviar are others right up there.
I certainly can not remember a better 3 year old filly’s performance than Treve; probably of any age.
Value Is EverythingAwesome performance. Don’t feel the race was run like a traditional 12F race, but still an exceptional performance.
Any "Female Frankel" tags need to be safely closed in the box with the old school magazines many of you may have read. Frankel was truely exceptional because he destroyed fields with regularity. Treve, as clearly brilliant as she is, will need to be tested further. Clearly a peak performance that will be historically remembered of course.
Frankel winning the Queen Anne, Harbinger the King George and this performance stand out as the most dominant performance in a serious Group 1 that i’ve seen.
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