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  • #5273
    doyley
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    Hello,

    Apparently VISIT tested Positive for the Sedative ACP, after the Lowther Stakes at York.

    All details on RP Website.

    Can ACP be generated naturally within the horse’s body???

    If it cannot, it looks like another "doping" incident… :( :(

    Just what racing needs right now…bang in the middle of the Fallon trial..Dear Me…. :oops:

    regards,

    doyley

    #118123
    TheCheekster
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    I dont think it necessarily means a doping incident, many horses withdrawal periods from some drugs differ to the ‘official’.
    ACP is strange in that the more you give doesnt actually make them dopier, just the same level for longer.
    Some horses will take 3 ACP tablets, some 10 to do the same thing – all horses have a different ‘dosage’. However I have no idea how that relates to the withdrawal period. I know that with Ventipulmin the longer they are on it, the longer you have to play it safe well over the withdrawal.
    Could just be a case that they used them well outside the withdrawal period, and have been unlucky. I guess they will release the levels found in the blood sooner or later.
    On the same track I know of a horse that has tested positive for a 60 day withdrawal steroid after 90 days – youd think a month over would be plenty of time!

    #118128
    Glenn
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    • Total Posts 2003

    Amazed that this has produced so little comment. ‘Ironic’ that the main beneficiary of this, if it did prevent her winning, was Brian Wright’s character referee.

    Athough not exceptional, I was surprised that Visit was so big in the betting, as I had her down as 1.96 and she didn’t have the profile of a horse that would usually be such ‘value’.

    Reminds me of the Henrietta Knight horse that tested positive and went on to win a few years back. That was put down as one of those things with ‘no unusual betting patterns’. I recall the betting on the race vividly even now – the horse was clear on figures yet was vieing for third or fourth favouritism, with even my spoof stops taken out on all the exchanges. I was amazed when it won and was half expecting the jockey not to weigh in!

    #118143
    doyley
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    hello,

    As everyone knows riding a NH horse is very dangerous, and riding a doped horse in a race would be incredibly dangerous. :shock:

    There has been allegatons in the past that a jockey could "pull" a horse, then administer the drug AFTER losing the race, then when a positive test is discovered it diverts attention from the guilty jockey.. :wink:

    If it is categorically proved, beyond a shadow of a doubt etc. etc. that a Sir Michael Stoute horse was indeed doped, we might as all give up and shut up shop…if the stables of one of the best trainers in the world, housing some of the most expensive horses in the world can be breached…I think handcart and hell would be in my next statement… :cry:

    regards,

    doyley

    #118209
    doyley
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    Hello,

    This episode wasn’t even mentioned on Channel 4 today…am I dreaming that this report appeared in yesterday’s RP… :roll:

    I think this confirms the power of certain people in racing, let me assure you that if this happened in a smaller stable it would be headlines, with gentry within the Sport of Kings shaking their noble heads in admonishment and blah blahing for weeks…

    But as it is that incredibly nice chap Sir Michael, it must have been an abberation… :roll:

    regards,

    doyley

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