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Looking at this race from afar the favourite, Dee Ex Bee has been subject to a lot of hype and looks a solid horse. He stayed on quite well on his debut but the visual impression didn’t blow me away. The form looks strong however is it true that Mark johnston has a poor record with his runners on this track? Whereas his record at goodwood is very impressive. I wonder if that’s because his horses are more battling types and York somehow doesn’t suit that type of horse.
I wouldn’t put anyone off backing the favourite by any means as it’s not as if it’s even money it’s 3-1.
Some interesting runners in there as always. I mentioned Lansky in the two year old thread the other day. He’s a tall rangy type. However looking at him before the race it struck me that he was very powerful behind the saddle and I wonder if he’ll end up being a sprinter. Can see him being outstayed at the death.
This seven furlongs takes some getting for these two year olds and the one who stands out as a value bet at this stage is Ulshaw Bridge. he has already won at York but then last time out proved completely unsuited to the track at Chester and got completely detached from them and looked nailed on to finish a tailed off last. The way though he stayed on was very impressive, he was motoring them down at the death and would have won in another couple of strides. The step up to seven could bring vast improvement and to me he looks like an each way bet to nothing.
Whilst I must admit to not having closely studied every horse in this race, there’s one in here that I absolutely had to back after his performance last time out. Dee Ex Bee (3/1) looked tremendously promising when debuting at Goodwood and given normal improvement it will take a very good one to stop him.
Have to stick with james garfield for this
As much as i liked dee ex bees maiden win, johnstons runners are pretty far forward usually, he will improve for sure, but james garfield already rated 104 and has arguably been unlucky a couple of times has shown enough to be a group horse, i think the horse still has a few lbs of improvement in him
If he were to not win i wouldnt be surprised if he was brought back to 6f after the race, wasnt entirely convinced he got the 7f last time but at the odds hes worth a punt
James garfield at 7/1 seems like a cracking bet
Have to stick with james garfield for this
As much as i liked dee ex bees maiden win, johnstons runners are pretty far forward usually, he will improve for sure, but james garfield already rated 104 and has arguably been unlucky a couple of times has shown enough to be a group horse, i think the horse still has a few lbs of improvement in him
If he were to not win i wouldnt be surprised if he was brought back to 6f after the race, wasnt entirely convinced he got the 7f last time but at the odds hes worth a punt
James garfield at 7/1 seems like a cracking bet
I absolutely agree
James Garfield was my pick when seeing the entires. I was expecting somewhere around 9/2. 7/1 looks massive.
I put up on another thread that I like Ulshaw Bridge because of the breeding, being by High Chapparal he should improve for the seven furlongs. Have a look at his last race at Chester, he took off in the final furlong like he had a rocket up his backside.
However Lansky and certainly Dee Ex Bee are very interesting. Is anyone put off by the fact that Johnston has a poor record at this meeting?
The big problem I had was choosing whether to trust Mark Johnston. He’s usually poison when I back him.
It was hard to get away from Dee Ex Bee for me though.
I liked the look of him last time and he is sure to stay. I am not so convinced about Fleet Review. He’s had four goes now and I am not sure about the form. He simply seemed to outstay I Am Power late in the day to win last time. I think his price is trainer driven, rather than form.
James Garfield leaves me a bit cold. His maiden win has worked out woefully so far. He ran behind the Guineas favourite last time but I don’t see Expert Eye as any value this far from the Guineas and the Scott stable have not had a winner for five weeks, in fact this horse was his last winner.
I don’t fancy anything bar the Johnston horse, so my hand was forced on him at 3/1.
I think Dee Ex Bee is a 2/1 shot at best and would probably go 7/2 Fleet Review myself.
I would probably have gone in heavy if not for the Johnston factor. I expect Dee Ex Bee to win this cosily. The second and third in his race have not run since but the 4th and 9th have won next time.
The trainer said of DXB:-
He’s a very good looking horse and had been working well – we don’t tend to bring them down here first time out unless they’ve been working well.
“He’s a big scopey horse and when you’ve something like that winning at a big meeting like Goodwood you start to dream.
The son of Farhh should break into three figures for a rating if he wins this and hopefully he is not another Sutter County or Yalta in terms of progression and consistency.
Dee Ex Bee for me at threes.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
I’m absolutely convinced that ZAAKI is a group-winner in waiting, and if he was with a half decent trainer he’d be one of the highest-regarded 2yo colts around at the moment.
On his debut at Yarmouth, he did absolutely everything wrong: fell out of the stalls, was unbelievably keen at the back, fought with his jockey the entire race, hated the soft ground, hung violently when asked for effort; but as soon as he started to figure his stride out he’s ran on really well at the end. Then next time out at Newmarket, he’s basically done the same, running all over the place and looking like an absolute nut-job, but again running on well at the end.
His trainer, Mohamed Moubarak, hasn’t won a race since he started training again, and I’m not convinced he’s the right trainer to get this horse to settle. So for that reason this horse isn’t backable for me at 10/1, but he’s nevertheless enormously talented.
At the moment, the one I’m settling on is ULSHAW BRIDGE. But I haven’t fully committed yet, and may well end up dutching him with WELLS FARHH GO who bolted up over C&D soft ground on his only start to far.
A lot of unknowns in this race. So many horses with so much possible improvement in them.
If I was forced to have a bet now it would be on either LANSKY at 10/1 or BEATBOX RHYTHM at 16/1. I think they both could be massive improvers and Karl Burke will know whether this Beatbox is any good after the weekend in France
I think Wells Farhh Go may outrun his odds of 18/1. He made a decent start to his career and has track form.
His form is rated at 78 by The Racing Post and although these figures are only tentative, early, ball-park numbers, Dee Ex Bee was awarded 93 first time up.
I had a look at Beatbox Rhythm but the form of his two races has thrown up nothing yet, with 1 placed and 11 unplaced from the 12 starters since.
I have a feeling Mark Johnston has some decent prospects this year and surely some must click eventually.
I did Threading in the Lowther at 5/1 as well and doubled them up. Threading won so easily last time, and although the ground was soft, she has a low enough action and is by Exceed And Excel. She looks very interesting against an uninspiring looking field with some very exposed O’Brien ones entered up.
Maybe these two will prove hard to catch and gallop all the way to the line.
Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.
I think Wells Farhh Go may outrun his odds of 18/1. He made a decent start to his career and has track form.
His form is rated at 78 by The Racing Post and although these figures are only tentative, early, ball-park numbers, Dee Ex Bee was awarded 93 first time up.
I had a look at Beatbox Rhythm but the form of his two races has thrown up nothing yet, with 1 placed and 11 unplaced from the 12 starters since.
I have a feeling Mark Johnston has some decent prospects this year and surely some must click eventually.
I did Threading in the Lowther at 5/1 as well and doubled them up. Threading won so easily last time, and although the ground was soft, she has a low enough action and is by Exceed And Excel. She looks very interesting against an uninspiring looking field with some very exposed O’Brien ones entered up.
Maybe these two will prove hard to catch and gallop all the way to the line.
If the Yank stays well enough over the 6f and gets its ground, it will win by 4 lengths.
In fact, if the ground is good or good to firm, it’s looking like my main bet of the week. Either him or Thomas Hobson in the Lonsdale.
Interesting that Ulshaw Bridge ran the final part of his race at Chester quicker than Kimberella did on the same card. Looking at the time of Dee Ex Bee, his race time doesn’t compare that fantastic with the other times on the same card, but I see he got a good topspeed rating. Showed a lot of early pace as well.
Slightly worrying that Steve (my hero, according to some on here
) is so bullish with Dee Ex Bee, as every time I take him on I seem to come a poor second, but sticking with my fellow Tempted to flip and back Dee Bee Ex- I might be overanalysing this race. Looks a very straightforward horse.
Of all the races tomorrow, this was the one I managed to work out where I stood the quickest.
Quite simply, I think Dee Ex Bee is a very good horse and I would be disappointed if he couldn’t win this.
I’m on at 9/4.
A fair few different takes on here by the looks of things so hopefully one of use will be on the victorious animal.
Tempted to flip and back Dee Bee Ex- I might be overanalysing this race. Looks a very straightforward horse.
He won quite takingly but the ground would worry me slightly for him tomorrow
Went in again e/w on james garfield at 9/1 aswell as my 7/1, if he stays i really think he will win
I think 4/1 about fleet review is a good price ill have a saver on him now
Degaussed, Zaaki looks interesting right enough. Just watched the Newmarket race and he must have taken a fair bit out of himself. Ran around a lot too and York likely to suit him much better. Aren’t you tempted to take some 20s with Ladbrokes? Crowley has superb hands and might well be able to switch the horse off.
I’m not a flat punter but Moubarak’s record suggests he is only playing at this game with just 38 runners in five seasons. He has just 11 horses. Seems odd.
Degaussed, Zaaki looks interesting right enough. Just watched the Newmarket race and he must have taken a fair bit out of himself. Ran around a lot too and York likely to suit him much better. Aren’t you tempted to take some 20s with Ladbrokes? Crowley has superb hands and might well be able to switch the horse off.
I’m not a flat punter but Moubarak’s record suggests he is only playing at this game with just 38 runners in five seasons. He has just 11 horses. Seems odd.
He’s only just started training again, I think he started in December? I wouldn’t pay much attention to the five-year stats for that reason.
As good a jockey as Crowley is, Pat Cosgrave and Tom Queally have both failed to ‘settle’ Zaaki.
I think the horse is just a nutter, to be honest.
Have to stick with james garfield for this
If he were to not win i wouldnt be surprised if he was brought back to 6f after the race, wasnt entirely convinced he got the 7f last time but at the odds hes worth a punt
James garfield at 7/1 seems like a cracking bet
Entered only in the Mill Reef and Middle Park for the time being, both over 6f. That has swayed me away from backing him at a decent price. It’s difficult to tell from his effort behind Expert Eye whether 7f might suit in a lower grade.
I don’t usually back 3 in a race but I felt inclined to stick some rubles on Dee Ex Bee, Lansky and Wells Farhh Go. A Farhh 1-2 would be nice. Lansky entered in the Dewhurst and could be anything, could be average. I think he’ll put in a bold bid though.
) is so bullish with Dee Ex Bee, as every time I take him on I seem to come a poor second, but sticking with my fellow 
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