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Given the fact that Turbo Linn is unbeaten in bumpers as well as the flat so for does anyone think that we will see her in next years Supreme Novices Hurdle or Mersey Novices Hurdle or will it take a big fat cheque from Graham Wylie or J.P. McManus to ensure that she goes novice hurdling next winter. Even though that she has done really well on the flat winning 2 groups races in the process I think it will be such a waste that a horse unbeaten in bumpers (including a big on at the Grand National meeting) shall be aimed solely for the flat. I also think a big jumps owner like Mr Wylie should try and purchase Aflie Flits and any other bumper winners trained by Alan Swinbank instead of buying flat stayers trained by Sir Mark Prescott which does not guarntee sucess over hurdles. I am keeping my fingers crossed that we see Turbo Linn run at Cheltenham next March.
Despite her unfashionable pedigree, I would imagine the black type she’s already picked up on the Flat will prevent her from ever running over hurdles, she’s too valuable as a broodmare.
Alan Swinbank was interviewed on Racing UK on Saturday and virtually ruled out the chances of her ever running over hurdles again.
Colin
There are no shortage of wealthy jumps owners out there and if they dont make an offer for her then I feel that there are missing out on a potential cracking novice hurdler for next season. After all its been publisied that Graham Wylie has spent a few bob on buying horses recently maybe he and Howard Johnson must surely put in a bid for her. Also J.P McManus has a lot of finaincial clout as well as does other big spending jump ownwers. I feel its really sad and also such a waste that very good bumper horses are going to the flat never to return. No wonder the irish have good hurdlers and they are light years ahead of their english counterparts. Just look at Sublimity, who was trained in this country on the flat and won a listed race. How many people who witnessed Subilmity’s listed win thought it could win a champion hurdle. The reason why the irish have such good strengh of depth is because they buy flat horses trained in England not just ordinary hanidcapers but some listed and group winners. Ok then here is another question what racehorses that you have seen on the flat this year would you like to see go over hurdles.
There have been many examples of horses making the transition from flat to hurdling and very successfully at that. Sea Pigeon (who finished 7th in 1973 Derby), Red Rum and Istabraq (formerly with John Gosden) to name but three, who also became legends.
Even the greatest NH horse of all, Arkle, won a mile and six handicap on the flat.
Apologies, just had to give him a mention.
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Surely the economics and her worth as a broodmare would overrule sending her over obstacles.
Colin
I would have thought jumping was a total non starter, pity for them they didn’t enter her for the Yorkshire Oaks which looks the ideal race.
Surely if JP or Wylie offers £800,000 then Coolmore (however iffy her breeding looks) will offer double that? An unbeaten group winning filly – got to be worth risking the money
I find it difficult to imagine Coolmore will be too bothered about adding a daughter of Turbo Speed to their breeding ranks.
As an aside, does anyone else think there is something of the ‘Attraction’ factor about her, in that people are getting carried away about her ability and adding 10 lbs to her ability because of the string of ones by her name?
Why waste such a good mare by sending her jumping?
Jump racing’s just a little game some people, for some reason, like to play in this corner of western Europe. She might be good enough to take on proper horses around the world.Indeed Zorro and I believe she will eventually be good enough to head to Fair Hills for the Breeders Cup, provided they go that route
There is absolutely no chance whatsoever of Turbo Linn going jumping, whether she’s sold on or stays with her current owner.
She is a seriously valuable broodmare prospect, even though she has a plebeian pedigree.
As all studies have shown, the most important factor in determining a mare’s success at stud is racing ability, despite what many bloodstock agents might wish to have you believe.
Why do you believe there would be any value in her racing at Far Hills, compared to her racing on the flat and her present value as a broodmare, let alone the risk involved?
She looks to have a tremendous future on the flat and if it doesn’t transpire, then it’s off to the paddocks.
Jumping, here or in the States is unlikely and probably fast ground at Far Hills an impossibility.
Far Hills is OK, but it’s a picnic party compared to Cheltenham.
Irish stamp the Breeders Cup is at Monmouth Park this year.
At this point I’m inclined to agree with davidjohnson. while she has done everything asked of her so, and done it well, she has yet to prove to be anything other than a very good G3/G2 horse imo. there is a world of difference between that and winning a big G1 race. while its certainly not beyond the realms of possibility she will show the required improvement at this moment in time she hasnt shown the form to do so. I mean after the race at newmarket everyone was commenting that it was the worst G2 race theyd seen in a long time.
As an aside, does anyone else think there is something of the ‘Attraction’ factor about her, in that people are getting carried away about her ability and adding 10 lbs to her ability because of the string of ones by her name?
Couldn’t agree more. I’m certainly not getting carried away with Saturday’s win, as the form is, imho, way off the current top middle-distance-fillies’ mark. Tackling the likes of Peeping Fawn and Light Shift – should they show up in a race such as the Yorkshire Oaks – will be a totally different assignment altogether, imo.
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