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This is to test a system which I read about.
The races involved are:
5 furlongs at Beverley (high draw)
5 and 6 furlongs at Doncaster (low draw)
5 and 6 furlongs at Goodwood (high draw)
5 furlongs at Musselburgh (low draw)
5 and 6 furlongs at Newcastle (high draw)
5 and 6 furlongs at Nottingham (high draw)
5 furlongs at Pontefract (low draw)
5 and 6 furlongs at Ripon (low draw)
5 and 6 furlongs at Thirsk (high draw)No nurserys or selling handicaps involved (class 5 or better).
The system involves picking the best four horses according to draw bias and backing them in 12 forecasts and 24 tricast (full cover).The trial will run from 17 April to the end of the flat season.
Day One: Races at Thirsk (4.10) (class 3) 5f
1 Waveband (11)
2 Tasmeen (5)
3 Whozthecat (2)
4 Magical Macey (6)
5 Tilly’s Tale (10)
6 Confessional (4)
7 Breathless Kiss (1)
8 Ignatieff (9)
9 Dispol Keasha (3)
10 Esuvia (13)
11 Pilgrim Dancer (7)
12 Angel Of Fashion (8)
13 Durham Express (12)Selections from this race will be Esuvia, Durham Express, Waveband & Tilly’s Tale.
Cost £36 (Running cost from Thirsk £36) (Running cost from all meetings £36).
Race 2: Doncaster 5.40 17/4/10 15 runners
Class 3
1 Jarrow (7)
2 Haadeeth (14)
3 Crown (15)
4 Raddy ‘Ell Pauline (11)
5 Victoire De Lyphar (6)
6 Mon Brav (13)
7 Toga Tiger (3)
8 Jack My Boy (12)
9 Ventura Cove (5)
10 Deacon Blues (2)
11 Masked Dance (9)
12 Bossy Kitty (1)
13 Alice Alleyne (10)
14 Flaneur (4)
15 Amenable (8)Selections are Bossy Kitty, Deacon Blues, Toga Tiger & Flaneur
Cost £36 (Doncaster running cost £36) (Total Running cost £72)
Race 3 Nottingham 5.30 class 3 5f 10 runners
1 Existentialist (7)
2 Liberty Lady (10)
3 Boogie Waltzer (9)
4 Rio Mist (1)
5 Val C (6)
6 Bitter Honey (3)
7 Exceed Power (5)
8 Saucy Girl (4)
9 Southwark Newshawk (8)
10 Dispol Kabira (2)Selections are Liberty Lady, Boogie Waltzer, Southwark Newshawk & Existentialist
Cost £36 (Nottingham running cost £36) (all track running cost £108)
Good luck with this
RedRum77
and I hope you make a good profit for you.
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Good luck with this
RedRum77
and I hope you make a good profit for you.
Thanks billions, did tried this a few seasons ago.
To a 25p unit £9 outlay and it did gave me massive payouts of £900+ one season and £800 the following season. However does it pay for the full season is what I am trying to find out. I know I missed about 2 weeks of the season but I don’t think it will effect the results that much.Day One: Races at Thirsk (4.10) (class 3) 5f
1 Waveband (11)
2 Tasmeen (5)
3 Whozthecat (2)
4 Magical Macey (6)
5 Tilly’s Tale (10)
6 Confessional (4)
7 Breathless Kiss (1)
8 Ignatieff (9)
9 Dispol Keasha (3)
10 Esuvia (13)
11 Pilgrim Dancer (7)
12 Angel Of Fashion (8)
13 Durham Express (12)Selections from this race will be Esuvia, Durham Express, Waveband & Tilly’s Tale.
Cost £36 (Running cost from Thirsk £36) (Running cost from all meetings £36).
Result Whozthecat drawn 2 10/1
Confessional drawn 4 8/1
Tilly’s Tale drawn 10 14/1Non runners Durham express drawn 12, Pilgram Dancer drawn 7
No Returns apart from void bets Durham Edition would be in six forecast and 18 Tricast (24 bets) £24.00
Profit loss -£12.00
Running total for Thirsk -£12.00
Running total for all meetings -£12.00Race 2: Doncaster 5.40 17/4/10 15 runners
Class 3
1 Jarrow (7)
2 Haadeeth (14)
3 Crown (15)
4 Raddy ‘Ell Pauline (11)
5 Victoire De Lyphar (6)
6 Mon Brav (13)
7 Toga Tiger (3)
8 Jack My Boy (12)
9 Ventura Cove (5)
10 Deacon Blues (2)
11 Masked Dance (9)
12 Bossy Kitty (1)
13 Alice Alleyne (10)
14 Flaneur (4)
15 Amenable (8)Selections are Bossy Kitty, Deacon Blues, Toga Tiger & Flaneur
Cost £36 (Doncaster running cost £36) (Total Running cost £72)
Result Victoire De Lyphar Drawn 6 22/1
Jack My Boy Drawn 12 6/1
Deacon Blues Drawn 2 5/1Non Runners Alice Alleyne drawn 10, Masked Dance drawn 9
Profit loss -£36.00
Running total for Doncaster -£36.00
Running total for all meetings -£48.00Race 3 Nottingham 5.30 class 3 5f 10 runners
1 Existentialist (7)
2 Liberty Lady (10)
3 Boogie Waltzer (9)
4 Rio Mist (1)
5 Val C (6)
6 Bitter Honey (3)
7 Exceed Power (5)
8 Saucy Girl (4)
9 Southwark Newshawk (8)
10 Dispol Kabira (2)Selections are Liberty Lady, Boogie Waltzer, Southwark Newshawk & Existentialist
Cost £36 (Nottingham running cost £36) (all track running cost £108)
Result Rio Mist drawn 1 13/2
Saucy Girl drawn 4 7/1
Boogie Waltzer drawn 8 9/2Non-Runners Bitter Honey drawn 3, Dispol Kabira drawn 2
Profit Loss -£36.00
Running total for Nottingham -£36.00
Running total for all meetings -£84.00
Day one of the Tricast and Forecast system and it’s not a good start £84 down, however a system is not about finding every winner, but enough at a good price.With the full flat season to come I am confident of making a profit with this system, but time will tell.
No candidates for rest of week scanning the week ahead to April 23 (friday).
You can have long losing runs with this, so you’ll need deep pockets . . .
I don’t have any draw statistics, but sometimes at N’cle, isn’t it the low numbers that have it in big fields?
Also I once had a theory about going for higher drawn horses at Ponte, as the low drawn ones have to slow down to go around the kink, but presumably that was baloney?
You can have long losing runs with this, so you’ll need deep pockets . . .
I don’t have any draw statistics, but sometimes at N’cle, isn’t it the low numbers that have it in big fields?
Also I once had a theory about going for higher drawn horses at Ponte, as the low drawn ones have to slow down to go around the kink, but presumably that was baloney?
This is not my system, but one I found. Yes I agree you can go for long losing runs with this system and its best to keep to moderate stakes. Using a pound stake to keep things simple, but when I place my bets it will be 1/10 scale.
The draw bias was written for the system and each race all four seletions are covered in full bets, 36 bets equal stakes regardless of price.
Some bookies have different rules on how they treat the non runners, Ladbrokes for example treat any non runners in tricast as a forecast on the remaining selections and non runners in forecast as void bets. William hill give you a win single on the remaining runner in a forecast and tricast are treated the same as Ladbrokes.
To make things simple I’m taking out any bets where a non runner is involved.
I was writing this before the previous post was posted, but I’ll keep it the same.
I’d have thought this would be unsustainable, unless you get a couple of early ones up. I’d go for the more conservative approach of putting the four horses into 6 Toteswingers.
The main problem is that the racecourses nowadays have different, improved irrigation (ie, watering) systems, so there oughtn’t to be so much of a rail bias.
I only noted afterwards that your Ponte races are 5f, so maybe it was the 6f ones that I had a kamikaze approach to doing high draws. At that track in particular there used to be a problem with the ground being poached on the inside, due to too much racing.
Also, Doncaster, Shirley Shum Mishtake??? Shouldn’t it be the high draw over sprint trips?
Two more races both at Ripon
2.15 Class 3 6 Furlongs 8 runners
1 Capercaillie drawn 6
2 Midnight Martini drawn 1
3 Comedy Hall drawn 7
4 The Only Boss drawn 5
5 Lewy drawn 8
6 Sunnandaeg drawn 3
7 Jack My Boy drawn 2
8 Ballodair drawn 4Selections are
Midnight Martini, Jack My Boy, Sunnandaeg, Ballodair
2.50 Class 5 5 furlongs 13 runners
1 Select Commitee drawn 8
2 Captain Scooby drawn 1
3 King Of Swords drawn 9
4 Dispol Grand drawn 5
5 Lucky Art drawn 12
6 Sir Geoffrey drawn 3
7 Guertino drawn 7
8 Nomoreblondes drawn 11
9 Diamond Blade drawn 6
10 Sands Crooner drawn 4
11 Lost In Paris drawn 13
12 Future Gem drawn 10
13 Kyzer Chief drawn 2Selections in this race are
Captain Scooby, Kyzer Chief, Sir Geoffrey, Sand Crooner
I was writing this before the previous post was posted, but I’ll keep it the same.
I’d have thought this would be unsustainable, unless you get a couple of early ones up. I’d go for the more conservative approach of putting the four horses into 6 Toteswingers.
The main problem is that the racecourses nowadays have different, improved irrigation (ie, watering) systems, so there oughtn’t to be so much of a rail bias.
I only noted afterwards that your Ponte races are 5f, so maybe it was the 6f ones that I had a kamikaze approach to doing high draws. At that track in particular there used to be a problem with the ground being poached on the inside, due to too much racing.
Also, Doncaster, Shirley Shum Mishtake??? Shouldn’t it be the high draw over sprint trips?
Yes I thought so too, however this is an old system just revised by me. Maybe it was low when it was first used.
If the system doesn’t work at the end of the season then I know to drop it. Like you say it can be expensive so moderate stakes are called for, but it says it should get a forecast 7/10 tries and tricast 3/10.
Two more races both at Ripon
2.15 Class 3 6 Furlongs 8 runners
1 Capercaillie drawn 6
2 Midnight Martini drawn 1
3 Comedy Hall drawn 7
4 The Only Boss drawn 5
5 Lewy drawn 8
6 Sunnandaeg drawn 3
7 Jack My Boy drawn 2
8 Ballodair drawn 4Selections are
Midnight Martini, Jack My Boy, Sunnandaeg, Ballodair
2.50 Class 5 5 furlongs 13 runners
1 Select Commitee drawn 8
2 Captain Scooby drawn 1
3 King Of Swords drawn 9
4 Dispol Grand drawn 5
5 Lucky Art drawn 12
6 Sir Geoffrey drawn 3
7 Guertino drawn 7
8 Nomoreblondes drawn 11
9 Diamond Blade drawn 6
10 Sands Crooner drawn 4
11 Lost In Paris drawn 13
12 Future Gem drawn 10
13 Kyzer Chief drawn 2Selections in this race are
Captain Scooby, Kyzer Chief, Sir Geoffrey, Sand Crooner
Ripon 2.15 Result 6 ran, non runners Capercaillie & Sunnandaeg:
Won Jack My Boy 4/1
2nd Midnight Martini 4/1
T/C Ballodair
C.S.F £20.11
Tricast £119.09
Void Bets £24.00
Ripon 2.50 Result all 13 ran
Won Sir Geoffrey 11/1
2nd Sand Crooner 8/1
3rd Lucky Art 16/1
C.S.F £91.64
Profit for 2 races +£182.84
Running total for Ripon for Ripon + £182.84
Running total for all meetings +£98.84Newcastle 4.10, class 2, 5 furlongs 11 run:
1 Masta Plasta drawn 2
2 Strike Up The Band drawn 11
3 Quest For Success drawn 9
4 Buachaill Dona drawn 4
5 Captain Dunne drawn 10
6 Roker Park drawn 8
7 Rebel Duke drawn 3
8 Red Cape drawn 5
9 The Nifty Fox drawn 7
10 Master Rooney drawn 6
11 Rasaman 1The selections are
Strike Up The Band, Captain Dunne, Quest For Success, Roker Park
Day one of the Tricast and Forecast system and it’s not a good start £84 down, however a system is not about finding every winner, but enough at a good price.
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