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I’ve only just realised that no one has nominated Cigar.
The problem with being interested in horseracing is that one never discusses it with other people, because they ain’t interested. I’ve been under the impression that he is the best horse we’ve seen in the past decade or so. Isn’t that the case?
On that basis, what should Ugly Mare do for nominating Matt Chapman as Best Presenter????
Colin
Tell you what, d_m, I won’t vote for your overrated animal and you don’t vote for my underrated animal.
It’s a nominations thread, btw, Colin’s right. You can concievably vote for Trigger, Black Beauty, Copenhagen or Peter the pantomime horse. We’ll all get a chance in the Hustings, I’m sure.
Deering seems to be on the Forum, so there could be a nomination coming for the horse with the big heart, . . . .
10 hurdlers – Istabraq, Inglis Drever
10 chasers – Red Rum, Desert Orchid, Kauto Star, Best Mate, Moscow Flyer
15 flat horses – Zarkava, Yeats
5 jockeys – McCoy, Dunwoody
5 trainers – AOB, Stoute, M Pipe
and 3 others…..Sir PeterTrainers:-
Jack Berry,
Martin Pipe (must be included surely?)
Geoff Wragg
Clive Brittain
Reg HollinsheadTell you what, d_m, I won’t vote for your overrated animal and you don’t vote for my underrated animal.
Just to clear up, I was only joking and am all for everybody having an opinion. However, how is DM over-rated? Sir Percy wouldn’t see which way he went!
Istabraq, Persian War, Bula, Night Nurse, Comedy of Errors, Inglis Drever, Baracouda, Monksfield, Lanzarote, Sea Pigeon,
I don’t think I can argue with that. Comedy Of Errors holds a special place for me, being the first horse I was really fond of. I will add Hardy Eustace though.
Chasers: Red Rum, Desert Orchid, Best Mate, Kauto Star, Burrough Hill Lad, Spot thedifference…..I’m stuck.
Not really into flat horses but the one I’d stick at the top of my small list would be Ouija Board.
edit: Rags To Riches is having a rendezvous with Giant’s Causeway.
…thank you for letting me know Gerald – I wasn’t aware of that, so really something to look forward to for us.
Who can forget Cigar? although he wasn’t a great favourite of mine. So many names we could all have included I think. I was hoping Mr Deering would at least have come up with ‘Sunline’.
I had better do it for him, or else there will be an almighty row when he isn’t among the final nominations.
Phar Lap
My own thoughts thrown into the mixer (there will be few beyond the last 10 years):
Hurdlers: Istabraq, Inglis Drever
Chasers: Moscow Flyer, Dawn Run
Flat: Secretariat (still can’t believe the Belmont video I’ve seen is genuine), Yeats, Borderlescott.
Jockeys: Richard Dunwoody, tentative nod for the mercurial Paul Carberry.
Trainers: Dermot Weld and the obvious A P O’Brien.
Others: Freddie Williams, J P McManus.Lingfield Park – for pioneering AW racing in this country and creating a large part of the industry as well as a blue print for the future of racing in this country
simon,
interesting line of thought, but surely that nomination should be for the indisputable father of AW racing in England, the seldom-mentioned Ron Muddle ?
he was prime mover for AW not only at Lingfield (after taking that course over from Ladbrokes in the 1980s) but also (along with son Richard) at Southwell and Wolverhampton.
AW was an innovation arising from one person with a vision willing to fight for it and take personal risks, rather than from any of the salaried institutional non-risk-takers nominally charged with innovating and developing.
best regards
wit
CHASERS
Golden Miller, Arkle, Mill House, Red Rum, Wayward Lad, Dawn Run, Desert Orchid, Moscow Flyer, Best Mate, Kauto Star
HURDLERS
See You Then, Persian War, Bula, Sea Pigeon, Night Nurse, Comedy Of Errors, Monksfield, Istabraq, Baracouda, Inglis Drever
FLAT
Nijinsky, Shergar, Dancing Brave, Brigadier Gerard, Sea Bird, Mill Reef, Reference Point, Ardross, Montjeu, Yeats, Never Say Die, Pebbles, Ouija Board, Bosra Sham, Zarkava
JOCKEYS
Lester Piggott, AP McCoy, Peter Scudamore, Pat Eddery, Sir Gordon Richards
TRAINERS
Martin Pipe, Vincent O’Brien, Aiden O’Brien, Henry Cecil, André Fabre
OTHERS
Sir Peter O’Sullevan, Sheikh Mohammed, The Queen Mother
Hurdlers:
Istabraq, Brave Inca, Limestone Lad, Baracouda, Inglis Drever, all them yokes from the 70s, Binocular
Chasers:
Moscow Flyer, Best Mate, Arkle, Red Rum, Golden Cygnet, Flyingbolt, Dawn Run, Desert Orchid, The Fellow, Denman (provisional), Beef or Salmon
Flat Horses:
Phar Lap, Shergar, High Chapparal, Brigadier Gerard, Giants Causeway, Yeats, Dubai Millenium, Makybe Diva, Vinnie Roe, Ajax II,
Jockeys:
AP McCoy, Lester Piggott,
Trainers:
Vincent O’Brien, AP O’Brien, Martin Pipe, Andre Fabre,
Others:
Andrew Black, Lord Bentinck (inventor of the horsebox), Mr. Cornelius O’Callaghan & Mr. Edmund Blake jointly (purveyors of the first ever steeplechase in 1752), Ron Muddle (after reading wit’s post)
When did Golden Cygnet go chasing David?
Seriously though, it would be a travesty if this horse was left out. Would have been an absolute superstar.
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