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    Here are what the horse scores would’ve been for the first two days of Cheltenham.

    Tuesday

    Supreme Hurdle
    60 Champagne Fever 5/1
    11 My Tent Or Yours 15/8
    18 Jezki 5/1
    14 Un Atout 6/1

    Arkle Chase
    11 Simonsig 8/15
    88 Baily Green 33/1
    66 His Excellency 80/1

    JTT Chase
    195 Golden Chieften 28/1
    30 Our Mick 13/2
    35 White Star Line 12/1
    44 Tullamore Dew 33/1

    Champion Hurdle
    26 Hurricane Fly 13/8
    26 Rock On Ruby 11/2
    41 Countrywide Flame 16/1

    OLBG Mares Hurdle
    15 Quevega 8/11
    88 Sirene D’Anay 33/1
    66 Swincombe Flame 40/1
    44 Shadow Eile 66/1

    Rewards For Racing Chase
    135 Rajdhani Express 16/1
    88 Akertac 66/1
    41 Ohio Gold 16/1
    14 Shangani 6/1

    Wednesday

    John Oaksey NH Chase
    33 Back In Focus 9/4
    36 Tofino Bay 8/1
    24 Godsmejudge 7/1
    16 Buddy Bolero 7/1

    Neptune Hurdle
    45 The New One 7/2
    24 Rule The World 5/1
    8 Ponte Alexandre 6/4
    (NRs Puffin Billy, Sizing Gold)

    RSA Chase
    90 Lord Windermere 8/1
    42 Lyreen Legend 10/1
    24 Hadrians Approach 7/1
    7 Unioniste 5/2

    Queen Mother Chase
    6 Sprinter Sacre 1/4
    28 Sizing Europe 6/1
    54 Wishfull Thinking 25/1

    Coral Cup Hurdle
    220 Medinas 33/1
    50 Meister Eckhart 14/1
    47 Fivefourthree 20/1
    21 Master of The Sea 10/1

    Fred Winter Hurdle
    180 Flaxen Flame 25/1
    62 Caid du Berlais 20/1
    50 Petit Zig 22/1
    27 Milord 16/1

    Weatherbys Champion Bumper
    180 Briar Hill 25/1
    32 Regal Encore 7/1
    30 Golantilla 9/1
    27 The Liquidator 16/1
    (NR Johnny G)

    Might be worth putting up the results (as above) just after the last race of each day Nathan, so people can check their own scores and get used to the scoring system. (I could do this if it saves you time Nathan).

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    Points System For Horse Racing Betting Competitions

    Price

    ………

    1st

    2nd

    ..

    3rd

    ..

    4th

    ………………………………….

    30/100+

    6

    …….

    2

    …….

    1

    ……

    0

    1/3

    ………

    7

    …….

    3

    …….

    2

    ……

    1

    4/11

    …….

    7

    …….

    3

    …….

    2

    ……

    1

    2/5

    ………

    8

    …….

    3

    …….

    2

    ……

    1

    4/9

    ………

    9

    …….

    4

    …….

    3

    ……

    2

    40/85

    …..

    9

    …….

    4

    …….

    3

    ……

    2

    1/2

    …….

    10

    …….

    4

    …….

    3

    ……

    2

    8/15

    …….

    11

    …….

    4

    …….

    3

    ……

    2

    4/7

    ………

    12

    …….

    5

    …….

    4

    ……

    2

    8/13

    …….

    13

    …….

    5

    …….

    4

    ……

    3

    4/6

    ………

    14

    …….

    6

    …….

    4

    ……

    3

    It struck me that 6 points for Sprinter Sacre’s win was a bit small (winners should be encouraged) so did wonder whether it would be a good idea to have an earlier cut off point for odds-on horses Nathan. Possibly 2/5+ so it would be…

    2/5+…….8 for win…….3 for 2nd…….2 for 3rd……1 for 4th.

    OR (as I’ve changed the table below)

    I think 4, 3 and 2 are too high for 2nd, 3rd and 4th with a 30/100 shot if there’s a full cut off of 40/85 Nathan, but may be have an earlier cut off point of 9 points for

    winners only

    and a later one for placed horses. So the table would read…

    30/100+.9…….2…….1……0
    1/3……….9…….3…….2……1
    4/11……..9…….3…….2……1
    2/5……….9…….3…….2……1
    4/9……….9…….4…….3……2
    40/85……9…….4…….3……2
    1/2 ……10…….4…….3……2
    8/15……11…….4…….3……2
    4/7……..12…….5…….4……2

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    If you need to copy and paste the table to another thread, it may be best to press "quote" and then "copy" what’s in the box.

    If you want me to change any of the colours to make it easier to view, please let me know Nathan.

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    [b:z48m0uf4]Ginger Points
    Points System For Horse Racing Betting Competitions
    [/b:z48m0uf4]
    Price……….1st[/color:z48m0uf4]…2nd[/color:z48m0uf4]..3rd[/color:z48m0uf4]…4th[/color:z48m0uf4]
    ………………………..[b:z48m0uf4]40%[/color:z48m0uf4][/b:z48m0uf4]..[b:z48m0uf4]30%[/color:z48m0uf4][/b:z48m0uf4].[b:z48m0uf4]20%[/color:z48m0uf4][/b:z48m0uf4]
    30/100+…….9[/color:z48m0uf4]…….2[/color:z48m0uf4]…….1[/color:z48m0uf4]……0[/color:z48m0uf4]
    1/3…………….9[/color:z48m0uf4]…….3[/color:z48m0uf4]…….2[/color:z48m0uf4]……1[/color:z48m0uf4]
    4/11…………..9[/color:z48m0uf4]…….3[/color:z48m0uf4]…….2[/color:z48m0uf4]……1[/color:z48m0uf4]
    2/5…………….9[/color:z48m0uf4]…….3[/color:z48m0uf4]…….2[/color:z48m0uf4]……1[/color:z48m0uf4]
    4/9…………….9[/color:z48m0uf4]…….4[/color:z48m0uf4]…….3[/color:z48m0uf4]……2[/color:z48m0uf4]
    40/85………..9[/color:z48m0uf4]…….4[/color:z48m0uf4]…….3[/color:z48m0uf4]……2[/color:z48m0uf4]
    1/2 …………10[/color:z48m0uf4]…….4[/color:z48m0uf4]…….3[/color:z48m0uf4]……2[/color:z48m0uf4]
    8/15…………11[/color:z48m0uf4]…….4[/color:z48m0uf4]…….3[/color:z48m0uf4]……2[/color:z48m0uf4]
    4/7…………..12[/color:z48m0uf4]…….5[/color:z48m0uf4]…….4[/color:z48m0uf4]……2[/color:z48m0uf4]
    8/13…………13[/color:z48m0uf4]…….5[/color:z48m0uf4]…….4[/color:z48m0uf4]……3[/color:z48m0uf4]
    4/6…………..14[/color:z48m0uf4]…….6[/color:z48m0uf4]…….4[/color:z48m0uf4]……3[/color:z48m0uf4]
    8/11…………15[/color:z48m0uf4]…….6[/color:z48m0uf4]…….5[/color:z48m0uf4]……3[/color:z48m0uf4]
    4/5…………..16[/color:z48m0uf4]…….6[/color:z48m0uf4]…….5[/color:z48m0uf4]……3[/color:z48m0uf4]
    5/6…………..17[/color:z48m0uf4]…….7[/color:z48m0uf4]…….5[/color:z48m0uf4]……3[/color:z48m0uf4]
    10/11……….18[/color:z48m0uf4]…….7[/color:z48m0uf4]…….5[/color:z48m0uf4]……4[/color:z48m0uf4]
    20/21……….19[/color:z48m0uf4]…….8[/color:z48m0uf4]…….6[/color:z48m0uf4]……4[/color:z48m0uf4]
    Evens………20[/color:z48m0uf4]…….8[/color:z48m0uf4]…….6[/color:z48m0uf4]……4[/color:z48m0uf4]
    21/20……….20[/color:z48m0uf4]…….8[/color:z48m0uf4]…….6[/color:z48m0uf4]……4[/color:z48m0uf4]
    11/10……….21[/color:z48m0uf4]…….8[/color:z48m0uf4]…….6[/color:z48m0uf4]……4[/color:z48m0uf4]
    6/5…………..22[/color:z48m0uf4]…….9[/color:z48m0uf4]…….7[/color:z48m0uf4]……4[/color:z48m0uf4]
    5/4…………..23[/color:z48m0uf4]…….9[/color:z48m0uf4]…….7[/color:z48m0uf4]……5[/color:z48m0uf4]
    11/8…………24[/color:z48m0uf4]…..10[/color:z48m0uf4]…….7[/color:z48m0uf4]……5[/color:z48m0uf4]
    6/4…………..25[/color:z48m0uf4]…..10[/color:z48m0uf4]…….8[/color:z48m0uf4]……5[/color:z48m0uf4]
    13/8…………26[/color:z48m0uf4]…..10[/color:z48m0uf4]…….8[/color:z48m0uf4]……5[/color:z48m0uf4]
    7/4…………..28[/color:z48m0uf4]…..11[/color:z48m0uf4]…….8[/color:z48m0uf4]……6[/color:z48m0uf4]
    15/8…………29[/color:z48m0uf4]…..11[/color:z48m0uf4]…….9[/color:z48m0uf4]……6[/color:z48m0uf4]
    2/1…………..30[/color:z48m0uf4]…..12[/color:z48m0uf4]…….9[/color:z48m0uf4]……6[/color:z48m0uf4]
    85/40………31[/color:z48m0uf4]…..12[/color:z48m0uf4]…….9[/color:z48m0uf4]……6[/color:z48m0uf4]
    9/4…………..33[/color:z48m0uf4]…..13[/color:z48m0uf4]…..10[/color:z48m0uf4]……7[/color:z48m0uf4]
    5/2…………..35[/color:z48m0uf4]…..14[/color:z48m0uf4]…..11[/color:z48m0uf4]……7[/color:z48m0uf4]
    11/4…………37[/color:z48m0uf4]…..15[/color:z48m0uf4]…..11[/color:z48m0uf4]……7[/color:z48m0uf4]
    3/1…………..40[/color:z48m0uf4]…..16[/color:z48m0uf4]…..12[/color:z48m0uf4]……8[/color:z48m0uf4]
    100/30…….43[/color:z48m0uf4]…..17[/color:z48m0uf4]…..13[/color:z48m0uf4]……9[/color:z48m0uf4]
    7/2…………..45[/color:z48m0uf4]…..18[/color:z48m0uf4]…..14[/color:z48m0uf4]……9[/color:z48m0uf4]
    4/1…………..50[/color:z48m0uf4]…..20[/color:z48m0uf4]…..15[/color:z48m0uf4]…..10[/color:z48m0uf4]
    9/2…………..55[/color:z48m0uf4]…..22[/color:z48m0uf4]…..17[/color:z48m0uf4]…..11[/color:z48m0uf4]
    5/1…………..60[/color:z48m0uf4]…..24[/color:z48m0uf4]…..18[/color:z48m0uf4]…..12[/color:z48m0uf4]
    11/2…………65[/color:z48m0uf4]…..26[/color:z48m0uf4]…..20[/color:z48m0uf4]…..13[/color:z48m0uf4]
    6/1…………..70[/color:z48m0uf4]…..28[/color:z48m0uf4]…..21[/color:z48m0uf4]…..14[/color:z48m0uf4]
    13/2…………75[/color:z48m0uf4]…..30[/color:z48m0uf4]…..23[/color:z48m0uf4]…..15[/color:z48m0uf4]
    7/1…………..80[/color:z48m0uf4]…..32[/color:z48m0uf4]…..24[/color:z48m0uf4]…..16[/color:z48m0uf4]
    15/2…………85[/color:z48m0uf4]…..34[/color:z48m0uf4]…..26[/color:z48m0uf4]…..17[/color:z48m0uf4]
    8/1…………..90[/color:z48m0uf4]…..36[/color:z48m0uf4]…..27[/color:z48m0uf4]…..18[/color:z48m0uf4]
    17/2…………95[/color:z48m0uf4]…..38[/color:z48m0uf4]…..29[/color:z48m0uf4]…..19[/color:z48m0uf4]
    9/1…………100[/color:z48m0uf4]…..40[/color:z48m0uf4]…..30[/color:z48m0uf4]…..20[/color:z48m0uf4]
    10/1……….105[/color:z48m0uf4]…..42[/color:z48m0uf4]…..32[/color:z48m0uf4]…..21[/color:z48m0uf4]
    11/1……….110[/color:z48m0uf4]…..44[/color:z48m0uf4]…..33[/color:z48m0uf4]…..22[/color:z48m0uf4]
    12/1……….115[/color:z48m0uf4]…..46[/color:z48m0uf4]…..35[/color:z48m0uf4]…..23[/color:z48m0uf4]
    13/1……….120[/color:z48m0uf4]…..48[/color:z48m0uf4]…..36[/color:z48m0uf4]…..24[/color:z48m0uf4]
    14/1……….125[/color:z48m0uf4]…..50[/color:z48m0uf4]…..37[/color:z48m0uf4]…..25[/color:z48m0uf4]
    15/1……….130[/color:z48m0uf4]…..52[/color:z48m0uf4]…..39[/color:z48m0uf4]…..26[/color:z48m0uf4]
    16/1……….135[/color:z48m0uf4]…..54[/color:z48m0uf4]…..41[/color:z48m0uf4]…..27[/color:z48m0uf4]
    18/1……….145[/color:z48m0uf4]…..58[/color:z48m0uf4]…..44[/color:z48m0uf4]…..29[/color:z48m0uf4]
    20/1……….155[/color:z48m0uf4]…..62[/color:z48m0uf4]…..47[/color:z48m0uf4]…..31[/color:z48m0uf4]
    22/1……….165[/color:z48m0uf4]…..66[/color:z48m0uf4]…..50[/color:z48m0uf4]…..33[/color:z48m0uf4]
    25/1……….180[/color:z48m0uf4]…..72[/color:z48m0uf4]…..54[/color:z48m0uf4]…..36[/color:z48m0uf4]
    28/1……….195[/color:z48m0uf4]…..78[/color:z48m0uf4]…..58[/color:z48m0uf4]…..39[/color:z48m0uf4]
    33/1+……..220[/color:z48m0uf4]…..88[/color:z48m0uf4]…..66[/color:z48m0uf4]…..44[/color:z48m0uf4]

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    What do you think about putting in a 5th place for just the Grand National Nathan, at 10% of win points?

    eg………………………………………………5th
    16/1……….135…..54…..41…..27…..14
    18/1……….145…..58…..44…..29…..15
    20/1……….155…..62…..47…..31…..16
    22/1……….165…..66…..50…..33…..17
    25/1……….180…..72…..54…..36…..18
    28/1……….195…..78…..58…..39…..20
    33/1+……..220…..88…..66…..44…..22

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    #433726
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    Was thinking – if you give the nap bonus and you boost the winner value how does that effect it ie. would it stay @ 200% or scale down with price ?

    #433736
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    Was thinking – if you give the nap bonus and you boost the winner value how does that effect it ie. would it stay @ 200% or scale down with price ?

    You make an excellent point BR, well, I am not entirely sure what you mean.

    So if you’d chosen an 11/10 shot as a nap and it won – you’d get 21 bonus points added to your 21 points win, 42 points in all. If your 110/10 shot finished 2nd it would be 8 added to 8 = 16 points, 3rd 6 + 6 = 12 points and 4th 4 + 4 = 8 points.
    If you take a chance and pick a 14/1 shot as a nap you’d get 125 + 125 = 250 points for a win, 50 + 50 = 100 points for 2nd, 37 + 37 = 74 points for 3rd and 25 + 25 = 50 points for 4th.

    Or

    Would it be fairer to get the full amount of double points for only winning "naps"? So 2nd placed 11/10 gets 40% of 8 = 3.2 so 3 added to 8 = 11 points in all, 3rd 30% of 6 = 1.8 so 2 added to 6 = 8 points in all, and 20% of 4 = 0.8 + 4 = 4.8 so 5 points in all.
    14/1 second place gets 40% of 50 = 20 + 50 = 70 points in all. 3rd 30% of 37 = 11.1 so gets 11 + 37 = 48 points in all. 4th place 20% of 25 = 5 + 25 = 30 points in all.

    Might be fairer than option 1, but not sure if it would be a little tricky for the scorer and take more time.

    Or

    Is it fairer for "naps" to count for winners only. If it’s the supposed "best bet" – should placed horses get any bonus at all?

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    5 places for the National is a good idea(only national).

    I was thinking about allowing for 1 race each day (any race, up to individual) where you can pick 2 horses, just to mix things up a bit, what do you think?

    Naps should be kept to win only.

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    5 places for the National is a good idea(only national).

    I was thinking about allowing for 1 race each day (any race, up to individual) where you can pick 2 horses, just to mix things up a bit, what do you think?

    Naps should be kept to win only.

    The idea of 2 horses for one race a day suits my way of betting well Nathan. Might be something to put to the great and good of TRF just before the competition starts, get everyone’s opinion.

    I’ll add the 5th to my table with scores in brackets so people don’t get confused.

    Think you’re right Nathan, Naps for win only is both fairer and easier to score.

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    [b:z80dv7pn]PLEASE READ NEW RULES![/b:z80dv7pn]

    [b:z80dv7pn]TRF Aintree 2013 Competition Rules[/b:z80dv7pn]

    Winner –

    The person with the highest overall score from the 3 days. If tied combined scores of 3 naps, if still tied highest score in Grand National, if still tied highest day 1 score, still tied day 2 etc. If still tied a 3 minute boxing round.

    NEW Rules –

    2 Selections in 1 race, 1 in the rest:
    Each day you pick 2 selections in 1 race of your choice and 1 selection per race in all other races, plus reserves in case of non-runners (please do not edit posts after the start of the first race if you need to make any alterations make a new post).

    Nap Selection:
    Pick 1 nap per day, if your nap wins it scores double points.

    All Selections for the day should be posted before the first race. The odd time when someone forgets to post until after the first race could be allowed at the scorer’s discretion (obviously selections for races already run do not count)… but do not make a habit of doing so.

    Points are scored for:
    Under 5 runners – Winner only to count.
    5-7 – Winner and 2nd.
    8-15 – Winner, 2nd and 3rd.
    16+ – Winner, 2nd, 3rd and 4th.
    Grand National – Winner, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th.

    Points Scored to SP’s as below –

    Second place gets 40% (0.4) of win points, Third 30% (0.3), Fourth 20% (0.2) and for Grand National only 5th 10% (0.1).

    [b:z80dv7pn]
    Points System For Aintree Betting Competition
    [/b:z80dv7pn]
    Price……….1st[/color:z80dv7pn]…2nd[/color:z80dv7pn]..3rd[/color:z80dv7pn]…4th[/color:z80dv7pn]..(5th Grand National only)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    ………………………..[b:z80dv7pn]40%[/color:z80dv7pn][/b:z80dv7pn]..[b:z80dv7pn]30%[/color:z80dv7pn][/b:z80dv7pn].[b:z80dv7pn]20%[/color:z80dv7pn][/b:z80dv7pn](10%)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    30/100+…….9[/color:z80dv7pn]…….2[/color:z80dv7pn]…….1[/color:z80dv7pn]……0[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(0)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    1/3…………….9[/color:z80dv7pn]…….3[/color:z80dv7pn]…….2[/color:z80dv7pn]……1[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(0)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    4/11…………..9[/color:z80dv7pn]…….3[/color:z80dv7pn]…….2[/color:z80dv7pn]……1[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(0)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    2/5…………….9[/color:z80dv7pn]…….3[/color:z80dv7pn]…….2[/color:z80dv7pn]……1[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(0)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    4/9…………….9[/color:z80dv7pn]…….4[/color:z80dv7pn]…….3[/color:z80dv7pn]……2[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(1)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    40/85………..9[/color:z80dv7pn]…….4[/color:z80dv7pn]…….3[/color:z80dv7pn]……2[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(1)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    1/2 …………10[/color:z80dv7pn]…….4[/color:z80dv7pn]…….3[/color:z80dv7pn]……2[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(1)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    8/15…………11[/color:z80dv7pn]…….4[/color:z80dv7pn]…….3[/color:z80dv7pn]……2[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(1)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    4/7…………..12[/color:z80dv7pn]…….5[/color:z80dv7pn]…….4[/color:z80dv7pn]……2[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(1)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    8/13…………13[/color:z80dv7pn]…….5[/color:z80dv7pn]…….4[/color:z80dv7pn]……3[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(2)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    4/6…………..14[/color:z80dv7pn]…….6[/color:z80dv7pn]…….4[/color:z80dv7pn]……3[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(2)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    8/11…………15[/color:z80dv7pn]…….6[/color:z80dv7pn]…….5[/color:z80dv7pn]……3[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(2)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    4/5…………..16[/color:z80dv7pn]…….6[/color:z80dv7pn]…….5[/color:z80dv7pn]……3[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(2)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    5/6…………..17[/color:z80dv7pn]…….7[/color:z80dv7pn]…….5[/color:z80dv7pn]……3[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(2)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    10/11……….18[/color:z80dv7pn]…….7[/color:z80dv7pn]…….5[/color:z80dv7pn]……4[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(2)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    20/21……….19[/color:z80dv7pn]…….8[/color:z80dv7pn]…….6[/color:z80dv7pn]……4[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(2)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    Evens………20[/color:z80dv7pn]…….8[/color:z80dv7pn]…….6[/color:z80dv7pn]……4[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(2)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    21/20……….20[/color:z80dv7pn]…….8[/color:z80dv7pn]…….6[/color:z80dv7pn]……4[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(2)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    11/10……….21[/color:z80dv7pn]…….8[/color:z80dv7pn]…….6[/color:z80dv7pn]……4[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(2)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    6/5…………..22[/color:z80dv7pn]…….9[/color:z80dv7pn]…….7[/color:z80dv7pn]……4[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(2)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    5/4…………..23[/color:z80dv7pn]…….9[/color:z80dv7pn]…….7[/color:z80dv7pn]……5[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(3)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    11/8…………24[/color:z80dv7pn]…..10[/color:z80dv7pn]…….7[/color:z80dv7pn]……5[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(3)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    6/4…………..25[/color:z80dv7pn]…..10[/color:z80dv7pn]…….8[/color:z80dv7pn]……5[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(3)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    13/8…………26[/color:z80dv7pn]…..10[/color:z80dv7pn]…….8[/color:z80dv7pn]……5[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(3)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    7/4…………..28[/color:z80dv7pn]…..11[/color:z80dv7pn]…….8[/color:z80dv7pn]……6[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(3)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    15/8…………29[/color:z80dv7pn]…..11[/color:z80dv7pn]…….9[/color:z80dv7pn]……6[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(3)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    2/1…………..30[/color:z80dv7pn]…..12[/color:z80dv7pn]…….9[/color:z80dv7pn]……6[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(3)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    85/40………31[/color:z80dv7pn]…..12[/color:z80dv7pn]…….9[/color:z80dv7pn]……6[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(3)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    9/4…………..33[/color:z80dv7pn]…..13[/color:z80dv7pn]…..10[/color:z80dv7pn]……7[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(4)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    5/2…………..35[/color:z80dv7pn]…..14[/color:z80dv7pn]…..11[/color:z80dv7pn]……7[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(4)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    11/4…………37[/color:z80dv7pn]…..15[/color:z80dv7pn]…..11[/color:z80dv7pn]……7[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(4)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    3/1…………..40[/color:z80dv7pn]…..16[/color:z80dv7pn]…..12[/color:z80dv7pn]……8[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(4)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    100/30…….43[/color:z80dv7pn]…..17[/color:z80dv7pn]…..13[/color:z80dv7pn]……9[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(4)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    7/2…………..45[/color:z80dv7pn]…..18[/color:z80dv7pn]…..14[/color:z80dv7pn]……9[/color:z80dv7pn]…….(5)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    4/1…………..50[/color:z80dv7pn]…..20[/color:z80dv7pn]…..15[/color:z80dv7pn]…..10[/color:z80dv7pn]……(5)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    9/2…………..55[/color:z80dv7pn]…..22[/color:z80dv7pn]…..17[/color:z80dv7pn]…..11[/color:z80dv7pn]……(6)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    5/1…………..60[/color:z80dv7pn]…..24[/color:z80dv7pn]…..18[/color:z80dv7pn]…..12[/color:z80dv7pn]……(6)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    11/2…………65[/color:z80dv7pn]…..26[/color:z80dv7pn]…..20[/color:z80dv7pn]…..13[/color:z80dv7pn]……(7)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    6/1…………..70[/color:z80dv7pn]…..28[/color:z80dv7pn]…..21[/color:z80dv7pn]…..14[/color:z80dv7pn]……(7)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    13/2…………75[/color:z80dv7pn]…..30[/color:z80dv7pn]…..23[/color:z80dv7pn]…..15[/color:z80dv7pn]……(8)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    7/1…………..80[/color:z80dv7pn]…..32[/color:z80dv7pn]…..24[/color:z80dv7pn]…..16[/color:z80dv7pn]……(8)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    15/2…………85[/color:z80dv7pn]…..34[/color:z80dv7pn]…..26[/color:z80dv7pn]…..17[/color:z80dv7pn]……(9)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    8/1…………..90[/color:z80dv7pn]…..36[/color:z80dv7pn]…..27[/color:z80dv7pn]…..18[/color:z80dv7pn]……(9)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    17/2…………95[/color:z80dv7pn]…..38[/color:z80dv7pn]…..29[/color:z80dv7pn]…..19[/color:z80dv7pn]…..(10)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    9/1…………100[/color:z80dv7pn]…..40[/color:z80dv7pn]…..30[/color:z80dv7pn]…..20[/color:z80dv7pn]…..(10)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    10/1……….105[/color:z80dv7pn]…..42[/color:z80dv7pn]…..32[/color:z80dv7pn]…..21[/color:z80dv7pn]…..(11)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    11/1……….110[/color:z80dv7pn]…..44[/color:z80dv7pn]…..33[/color:z80dv7pn]…..22[/color:z80dv7pn]…..(11)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    12/1……….115[/color:z80dv7pn]…..46[/color:z80dv7pn]…..35[/color:z80dv7pn]…..23[/color:z80dv7pn]…..(12)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    13/1……….120[/color:z80dv7pn]…..48[/color:z80dv7pn]…..36[/color:z80dv7pn]…..24[/color:z80dv7pn]…..(12)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    14/1……….125[/color:z80dv7pn]…..50[/color:z80dv7pn]…..37[/color:z80dv7pn]…..25[/color:z80dv7pn]…..(13)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    15/1……….130[/color:z80dv7pn]…..52[/color:z80dv7pn]…..39[/color:z80dv7pn]…..26[/color:z80dv7pn]…..(13)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    16/1……….135[/color:z80dv7pn]…..54[/color:z80dv7pn]…..41[/color:z80dv7pn]…..27[/color:z80dv7pn]…..(14)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    18/1……….145[/color:z80dv7pn]…..58[/color:z80dv7pn]…..44[/color:z80dv7pn]…..29[/color:z80dv7pn]…..(15)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    20/1……….155[/color:z80dv7pn]…..62[/color:z80dv7pn]…..47[/color:z80dv7pn]…..31[/color:z80dv7pn]…..(16)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    22/1……….165[/color:z80dv7pn]…..66[/color:z80dv7pn]…..50[/color:z80dv7pn]…..33[/color:z80dv7pn]…..(17)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    25/1……….180[/color:z80dv7pn]…..72[/color:z80dv7pn]…..54[/color:z80dv7pn]…..36[/color:z80dv7pn]…..(18)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    28/1……….195[/color:z80dv7pn]…..78[/color:z80dv7pn]…..58[/color:z80dv7pn]…..39[/color:z80dv7pn]…..(20)[/color:z80dv7pn]
    33/1+……..220[/color:z80dv7pn]…..88[/color:z80dv7pn]…..66[/color:z80dv7pn]…..44[/color:z80dv7pn]…..(22)[/color:z80dv7pn]

    Results of each race will be posted after the days racing with points scored for each horse – so TRFers can check their own scores.

    eg.
    This is how Tuesday’s Cheltenham results would’ve scored.

    Supreme Hurdle
    60 Champagne Fever 5/1
    11 My Tent Or Yours 15/8
    18 Jezki 5/1

    Arkle Chase
    11 Simonsig 8/15
    88 Baily Green 33/1

    JLT Chase
    195 Golden Chieften 28/1
    30 Our Mick 13/2
    35 White Star Line 12/1
    44 Tullamore Dew 33/1

    Champion Hurdle
    26 Hurricane Fly 13/8
    26 Rock On Ruby 11/2
    41 Countrywide Flame 16/1

    OLBG Mares Hurdle
    15 Quevega 8/11
    88 Sirene D’Anay 33/1
    66 Swincombe Flame 40/1
    44 Shadow Eile 66/1

    Rewards For Racing Chase
    135 Rajdhani Express 16/1
    88 Akertac 66/1
    41 Ohio Gold 16/1
    14 Shangani 6/1

    (For naps double the win score, so a nap of Champagne Fever @ 5/1 would’ve scored 2 x 60 = 120 points)

    PLEASE REMEMBER!
    Your SECOND SELECTION in ONE race and your NAP SELECTION!

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    I’ve been thinking about allowing for 1 race each day (any race, up to individual) where you can pick 2 horses, just to mix things up a bit, what do you think?

    I’ve been thinking about this idea Nathan. In many ways I think it’s a good idea and suits me (personally) very well. However, having looked at people’s selections in the Cheltenham competition, it seems a lot of TRFers find it hard to remember their NAP. Do you think a second selection in one race will be remembered by enough people Nathan?

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    Do wonder Nathan whether we should change the places to field numbers. It seems to me in small fields it greatly favours big priced horses, for them to get a place and (comparitively) big rewards. eg "paying" 3 places for 7 runners in the Arkle and a 33/1+ scoring 66 points for 3rd. Similarly for the Queen Mother; where it is 20/1 bar two and a 25/1 shot scores 54 points for 3rd in a 7 runner race.

    Possibly…
    5 or less 2 places.
    8 to 11 runners 3 places.
    12+ runners 4 places.

    Or

    Alternatively, because an odds-on favourite makes it easier to find a big priced horse to place in the first 3 or 4… Have a rule where any 6+ runner race with an odds-on favourite has 1 place fewer to count.

    So for any race with an odds-

    against

    favourite:
    Points are scored for:
    2 places in 5 runner or less fields.
    3 places in 6 to 9 runner fields.
    4 places in 10 or more runner fields…

    And for races with an odds-

    on

    favourite:
    2 places in 9 runner or less fields.
    3 places in 10 or more runner fields.

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    Is your point system set up as for normal betting, if so we should just go the norm, ie –

    under 5 – 1 place
    5-7 – 2 places
    8-15 – 3 places
    16+ – 4 places
    National – 5 places

    Yeah, I noticed the odd nap missing. :?
    I’d still be happy to go 2 runners in any 1 race a day, if people cant be bothered to read the rules it’s their own fault, but understand where your coming from. I’ll leave it all to you Ginge to work out everything with rules and points, I’ll just score it…….. :twisted:

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    Yes, we go with that then Nathan.

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    I’ll do separate threads for each days racing and post the rules on each of them as well.

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    Thumbs up :) .

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