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  • #1329593
    stevecautionstevecaution
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    PS the voting patterns here largely prove my point. If only napping horses was as easy ;-)

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #1329598
    GingertipsterGingertipster
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    Isn’t it awful when people who have shared views for many years and have even met each other at the races and become friends are “chummy”? I would have thought that, given the current climate, people would quite like to be able to come on here and share thoughts/views in an amicable way. Each to their own though I suppose. Or is that me being too chummy again…?!!

    I remember a user on another forum bemoaning the loss of subjectivity when certain sections of a forum form cosy groups. This guy used to refer to it as the Tufty Club Effect.

    Edge is essential in my opinion. There is no realism at all in a forum which coexists in a Utopian agreement.

    The truth in the real world is that people always get on one another’s tits from time to time. That’s the very flawed world we live in.

    Who sys there’s a “loss of subjectivity”, Steve?
    Reason why I nominated both Joni and Joe is because I can have a heated debate over “horse racing” issues, and know it won’t descend in to personal stuff. Or if it does doesn’t last long and is soon forgotten… I know you don’t want to enter debates with me anymore and that’s not good for the forum. Know it’s hard to believe with the number of posts I write, but have stopped myself from posting on some of the subjects you’re involved with because of that. For someone who welcomes “edge” and getting on “one another’s tits”, you do seem to take things personally. Suspect that’s partly my fault. I think me and you have taken things too far occasionally. Yes, everyone on here should be able to have strong and meaningful discussions/opinions on racing, that’s what this place is for. But there’s absolutely no reason to “get on one another’s tits” like some (including me) have done. Not that I think we should say sorry; am just making a point.

    Anyway, what do you say about a fresh start, Steve? :rose:

    P.S. Please don’t put me forward for this award, don’t want to be involved and genuinely hate to be popular. Besides, it won’t stop me telling TRFers where you’re all going wrong. ;-)

    value is everything
    #1329618
    DroneDrone
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    Poster of the Year: Gingertipster

    Thread of the Year: Perm Advice

    Perm Advice

    #1329629
    Jonibake
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    Isn’t it awful when people who have shared views for many years and have even met each other at the races and become friends are “chummy”? I would have thought that, given the current climate, people would quite like to be able to come on here and share thoughts/views in an amicable way. Each to their own though I suppose. Or is that me being too chummy again…?!!

    I remember a user on another forum bemoaning the loss of subjectivity when certain sections of a forum form cosy groups. This guy used to refer to it as the Tufty Club Effect.

    Edge is essential in my opinion. There is no realism at all in a forum which coexists in a Utopian agreement.

    The truth in the real world is that people always get on one another’s tits from time to time. That’s the very flawed world we live in.

    In defence, I would say that there is plenty of disagreement on threads like Big Race Discussions and Daily, Lays and Plays where, of course, we all have different opinions on what might or might not win. The Frankel thread that you have objected to obviously attracts people who share a passion for the horse and so it is only natural that we tend to agree on most things and want the same result most of the time. Occasionally there will be people who want to knock him or to disagree with me and others which is fine as long as it done in a friendly way (on both sides of course).

    Excuse me for not wanting to become embroiled in petty disagreements where it is all about who can outdo the other. You are right – there is enough of that in the real world at the moment especially with the horrible divisions in this country. I don’t enjoy it when things get personal on here and when it becomes hostile and abusive. You might like that “edge” but I know from speaking to others that it puts people off from joining in debates or putting their views across. We should all feel free to express ourselves without fear of rebuke but in a spirit of friendship rather than hostility. After all, we all have one important thing in common: we love horse-racing.

    You have been a member of this forum (off and on) for several years and just about everyone respects your opinions and is impressed by your knowledge and insight. In the season of goodwill may I suggest that we celebrate our differences and do our best to be civil to one another. Life is too short no?

    "this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"

    #1329630
    GingertipsterGingertipster
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    Nicely put, Joni. :good:

    value is everything
    #1329633
    TriptychTriptych
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    Merry Christmas Joni :rose:
    Agree with you that being civil is a crucial point in allowing everyone on The Forum whether right or wrong to voice their opinion.
    Time has a funny way of pointing us in the right direction on the opinions that we have voiced and instead of going on to pick holes in something that others enjoy celebrating a friendly word of encouragement and a little humility go a long way..Jac :heart:

    Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...
    #1329636
    GingertipsterGingertipster
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    Get a room you two. :heart:

    value is everything
    #1329638
    homersimpson
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    Poster of the Year: Gingertipster

    Thread of the Year: Perm Advice
    https://theracingforum.co.uk/forums/topic/perm-advice/

    I also vote for GT to make him popular and “get on his tits” :good:

    #1329640
    MatronMatron
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    @Gingertipster

    “P.S. Please don’t put me forward for this award, don’t want to be involved and genuinely hate to be popular. Besides, it won’t stop me telling TRFers where you’re all going wrong.”

    Are you Sheldon Cooper in disguise?

    #1329641
    GingertipsterGingertipster
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    @gingertipster

    “P.S. Please don’t put me forward for this award, don’t want to be involved and genuinely hate to be popular. Besides, it won’t stop me telling TRFers where you’re all going wrong.”

    Are you Sheldon Cooper in disguise?

    No, Matron. But I do see some similarities. :lol:

    value is everything
    #1329643
    Jonibake
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    Get a room you two. :heart:

    :)

    I might just add though that it is much harder to be hostile to someone that you have actually met in person. So often we can hide behind our anonymity (who is the real “Steve Caution” for example?) but once you have met people like Nath, Jac and Mark in the flesh you see that they are real people. Well….Mark is fairly UN-real I suppose but you get my point.

    Even the self-proclaimed legend in his own lunchbox, the great “Ante Post King”, is a lovely Steve Cram lookalike called Gordon from Nottingham with a young daughter and a passion for Soft Cell. Not the big, bad wolf that he liked to play on here during his pomp.. :)

    Would love to meet you one day at the races Steve. I’m sure we’d get on…..

    "this perfect mix of poetry and destruction, this glory of rhythm, power and majesty: the undisputed champion of the world!!!"

    #1329655
    SteeplechasingSteeplechasing
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    Bobby (VTC) is a forum legend and that will never change. He’s won this three years in a row and he’ll forgive me when I say time for a change this year, for me, at least.

    Bobby’s output is phenomenal but given the regularity of Gingertipster’s posts, he cannot be far behind in word count. More importantly the quality of his analysis is of such a consistently high order he could easily make a living tipping. He’s improved noticeably in the last year or so and I’m proud of how much he’s learned from debating with me :)

    So it’s Gingertipster for me.

    Will complete other categories later.

    Never argue with a fool. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience, then onlookers might not be able to tell the difference. https://lazybet.com/

    #1329704
    stevecautionstevecaution
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    Get a room you two. :heart:

    🙂

    I might just add though that it is much harder to be hostile to someone that you have actually met in person. So often we can hide behind our anonymity (who is the real “Steve Caution” for example?) but once you have met people like Nath, Jac and Mark in the flesh you see that they are real people. Well….Mark is fairly UN-real I suppose but you get my point.

    Even the self-proclaimed legend in his own lunchbox, the great “Ante Post King”, is a lovely Steve Cram lookalike called Gordon from Nottingham with a young daughter and a passion for Soft Cell. Not the big, bad wolf that he liked to play on here during his pomp.. 🙂

    Would love to meet you one day at the races Steve. I’m sure we’d get on…..

    I have no doubt we would get on well Joni.

    As you say though, it’s harder to be truly subjective with people you actually know and the tendency is to either not get involved at all, or to let things slide with people you consider to be friends, whereas you might let rip on a “stranger”

    I miss the Ante Post King here. He’s been pretty harsh about my selections in the past but that’s been easy to forgive with the awful season he has had himself ;-) He’s a man I am sure I could have a pint and the best of crack with.

    I find forums to be interesting to observe. You can always find the same sorts of stereotypical users on every forum. The tendency is for little groups to form and there is always a feeling of exclusion in some parts. I therefore try to remain outwith any group and just do my own thing.

    I say things as I see them, acknowledging that I will be wrong a lot of the time.

    There is a recurrent feeling on forums that I am having a go at someone’s tips. It’s just not true. If I see a horse as a bad bet I feel the need to let people know that. Sadly, some inevitably take umbrage and sometimes the mods are on my case. It happened with Moon Racer at Cheltenham on another forum, with people then telling me they were glad my tip Faugheen was injured. Still I was proven correct with all my concerns about Moon Racer, as the owners probably ruined the horse for good in a vainglorious pursuit.

    Anyway, when I say something I feel is unfair I usually make an honest apology for it but it is inevitable that some people won’t accept it. That’s just the way it is.

    I have had plenty pelters on here, including threats, which is not nice. My physical problems even got the mickey taken here but I never complained about it. If people knew the pain I live with every day I am sure the joke would not have been made. I even had someone suggest I should be refunding people for losing selections I make on races. Sweary tirades and threats followed. Someone reported one of my posts because I said I was happy that I had backed Gustav Klimt for the Guineas at 33/1. Goodness knows what harm there was in that.

    Anyone who thinks that I am harsh should take a look at some of the gyp I have had to take on the forum over the years.

    Anyway it’s all just one person’s opinion and I apologise for feeling too passionately about the subject at times. None of us are perfect.

    Plenty excellent judges on this forum and plenty of times when they will also be flummoxed by this gloriously unpredictable sport.

    There is a hint of mischief about me at all times. Sorry for that. Best not to take me seriously and sorry if it comes across the wrong way.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #1329706
    TriptychTriptych
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    You have a wicked sense of humour Steve and you can write a good post, I don’t think the Forum is in any way a Clique (hope I spelt that right) it’s just as Joni says some Threads attract the same posters because of their particular interests like the Competition Threads and more especially us Frankelites do spend a lot of time talking about all things Frankel ;-) . Your views and racing replays have been more than welcome and very helpful and informative.

    If I could just say one thing… I do think that sometimes it’s best to nail your colours to just one or two selections and then people know where you are with a horse that you fancy rather than the scattergun approach early season which often results in your having non-runners and having to make more selections. Just a view :rose:

    Why don’t you come along to my Select 3 Horses Saturday Tipster Compy and put your knowledge to the test, even win a small prize at the end of each season. You are more than welcome, only into week 6 it goes on until Grand National Day 2018 when we find out who the winner is…Jac X

    Things turn out best for those who make the best of how things turn out...
    #1329712
    GingertipsterGingertipster
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    Forget the past, Steve; the future is what matters. :good:
    Do enjoy your informative posts, just wish you’d allow me to get involved in discussions with you.
    Feel sure we’d hit it off too.

    All the best.

    Mark

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