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Hi guys, I still see the same old faces on here although I just noticed a new poster called "lickybits", that made me smile a lickybit….
For the last couple of years I’ve been making regular profits at Roulette, but when I checked back over months and months of wagering, the returns were very good, but the amount staked was pigging horrendous, frighteningly so…. even rolling forward winnings instead of negative progression was scary, I was making a couple of hundred a month, but the total amount staked was in the thousands. So, about 6 or 7 months ago, I got this bee in my bonnet about trading.
Trading in anything and everything, there’s no limit, anything from Aardvark racing to Zulu wrestling….. it appeared to me that you require no skills at studying horses, footy, tennis etc, all you needed was a knowledge of odds and a strong dose of money management. I was refreshed again, and enjoyed my betting without limits on what sport I was betting, I could match my betting to the time of day that I had free….. wonderful. Because I knew horse racing, I started with that….. well, I haven’t found a way to trade roulette yet….
I found that I could quite easily make a few quid "scalping", but I wanted to really get into "swing trading" where the odds movements are greater….. at this point it started to get harder, it was beginning to get more difficult to select which way the market was gonna move, but after a time I became more adept at this and choosing correctly and then "greening up" is awesome.
So what I’m asking you guys, is there any member on TRF that knows and would like to share some insight into this…. I’m making more ROI from trading than I was at roulette and I love roulette, but I’m as green as grass when trading, it’s only been 6 months or so and I still haven’t scraped the surface…. is there anybody out there that can shed some more light on this….
MrE
El Tel
, it is good to see you are alive and well and so all is now revealed just where you have been hiding.
I wish I could help you but sadly have not got a clue as to what the heck you are talking about but hope you find someone who can.
Billy's Outback Shack
Hello there Billy my boy….. how can I ever forget you after seeing that photo of you in that nice flowery frock, I was gratified that Nathan thought of posting it…. the memory of it is burned into my brain….
I have to admit that up to about 9 months ago, Trading meant selling snow to the eskimo’s, it even scared me a little bit to think of it applied outside of the stock markets, then I actually watched a mate of mine trade in a horse race and the apparent ease of winning a few quid was fascinating, so, being that I had sod all else to do, I began my path to greater learning.
Of course, it turned out to be anything other than easy, but after a lot of reading and following guys already doing it, things started taking shape….. after a month or two I was making a few quid, but had still not really grasped what it was all about. The great amounts of money traded on Betfair is just that, they are not just one or two guys having a major punt on a horse that they fancy or had a tip for, these are traders who are forcing the markets one way or the other….. the ups and down movements in the market are manipulated by mainly by traders….. I found that to be quite an eye opener, to be able to force a market downwards, lay a price and then let the markets find it’s level again (hopefully back up in price) and then back it and "green up"….. it gave me something else to do with my day….
As I pointed out in the first post, I am not at all experienced in this, but there might just be a couple of members who are into trading in a big way…. it’s their brains and assistance that I need. I have a feeling that nobody will step up though, it seems that those few that are good at it, want to keep their methods to themselves, but this doesn’t make sense at all because the more that are trading a race, then the more liquidity in market and the greater the market movement…. it’ll be an interesting topic for discussion anyway…..
MrE
Tennis
Trade on very short-priced favourites – under 1.08
Lay and then back for few ticks in-play – say back at 1.13 and your profit will be £4.20 "greened-up".(You could let a "swing" go out further if you are watching the match and knowledgeable about the various players and their styles of play. Some players, for instance will not use too much energy on winning a particular game or set if they feel the task is pointless. These players seem to be able to just go up another gear when push comes to shove to complete and win a match. Players, like Nadal will never give-up on point let alone a game so, beware!)
For a stake of £100.00 you risk would be £8.00.
If you get cold-feet and get out at 1.04 your loss would be only £4.00.
All top players will have period in a match when their concentration will lapse and the price will drift-out dramatically.
Give you some food for thought.
Regards
I have sad news for you
El Tel
but there will not be any more pictures as
Nathan
wanted it back because he being of a jealous nature thought I looked better in it than he. did
Billy's Outback Shack
Now, now Billion as shown in the photo below when we went to your younger brothers 102nd birthday party that you would actually look better if you cracked a smile. oh and that blonde wig of yours does nothing for your skin tone. As you can see I on the other am a natural in a dress.
http://i40.tinypic.com/1hxymq.jpg
Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
Nathan…. you’ve got more bottle than I have…. and you are sailing pretty close to the wind in incurring the wrath of Matron, Matron has fits of severe jealousy and is not shy of taking you into his office and separating you from your danglies.
What, I hear you ask, am I rabbiting on about now, well, let me tell you (I’ll whisper so that Matron can’t hear)…. in your photo, you have let Billy stand to close to your back, and I can tell by Bills face that he’s getting aroused….. I think your treading on dangerous ground getting Billy frustrated…..
MrE
Not to worry MrE. Matron has already previously had old Billion in his office and had him separate from his boomerang so nothing to worry there.
As for this trading it is something I’m interested in but would prefer to take my lap top with me say down the cricket ground and try and trade before the ‘betting suspended’ kicks in…..
Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
Hi guys, I still see the same old faces on here although I just noticed a new poster called "lickybits", that made me smile a lickybit….
For the last couple of years I’ve been making regular profits at Roulette,So what I’m asking you guys, is there any member on TRF that knows and would like to share some insight into this…. I’m making more ROI from trading than I was at roulette and I love roulette, but I’m as green as grass when trading, it’s only been 6 months or so and I still haven’t scraped the surface…. is there anybody out there that can shed some more light on this….
MrE
Great aftertiming Mr E.
By expecting to make a profit from roulette Mr E, sadly means you have not got what it takes to be a successful trader. Roulette profit is just temporary. To make a success of "trading" a player must know odds as percentages. Something you dismissed last time we "spoke". If you understood it, you would know Roulette is never something serious, profitable gamblers get involved with.
You seem to believe a player does not need to know about the subject/sport to trade successfully Mr E; that is also not true. Whether you are talking about tennis, racing or anything else… players need to be knowledgeable to know when the back and lay are under or over bet.
Value Is EverythingNathan…. I’ve studied trading quite a lot, but that’s a long, long way from me claiming to be an expert at it, it’s why I’m asking for anybody to throw their ideas in. I’ve spent a lot of time analysing graphs and trends (tell Bill that it’s almost an anagram of sing anally)….. and after 6 bloody hard months, I found that there’s a very strong foundation to making regular profits with only small risks, that was the appeal to me at the start.
What I’m trying to get started here, is a thread where someone with a bit of knowledge, will throw the ball into play and get us off and running…. I truly believe that there might be some small profits to be gained at this. It would take something special to pull me away from Roulette because I haven’t had a losing month since I last left the forum, this trading has the possibilities to be another source of income, but it would be nice and polite if someone reading this, made some comment. I’ll tell you why I want comments from these individuals.
As I have done before, I will start a decent thread about something that I really believe in, and then a week or so later, somebody will come down and try and shoot me down in flames…. it’s happened before and it will happen again…. but this time I wanna give those particular members plenty of time to get their comments in before I stick my frigging head over the ramparts, so, if there’s any of you lot out there that knows more than I do (and there must be hundreds of you), speak now or forever hold your piece….MrE
It would take something special to pull me away from Roulette because I haven’t had a losing month since I last left the forum,
MrE
Value Is EverythingGinge….. our post "crossed"….. and why am I not surprised that it was you that replied…. just like Red or Black, I KNEW that I could take odds on old Killjoy Ginge to get involved…. well my friend, let me tell you in front of all these members, that I have never heard such unadulterated rubbish coming from someone that is supposed to know so much…. yes, at trading I might be green, but don’t you ever tar me with the same brush as yourself…. Roulette…. I have played roulette for years and I have just finished an 8 month stint of not ever having a losing month… how’s that for "only short term profits"…. when it comes to roulette, your talking through your anus….. but forget roulette, this thread is not about roulette, it’s about trading.
I said that I was green, that much is true….. I said that I needed to learn a lot more about trading, that is also true, I have admitted my inexperience at trading…. but I think you need to withdraw your head from up your bottom because I NEVER said that I had been unsuccessful at it over the 6 to 7 months that I have been trading…. I have made £4K in 6 months without knowing a frigging thing about the sport at which I’m trading (except the horses)…. so if I listened to you, I would not have made that £4K profit and niether would I have made the £11K that I’ve made from roulette over the past 5 years….. so you’ll please forgive me if I ignore anything that you say. Yes, I believe that we’ve crossed swords before, I thought that you were a bit of a numpty then and my feelings remain the same.
OK Ginge, lets get one thing straight right now…. it is MY opinion and nobody else’s…. but you do NOT require to know the sport that you are trading in…. you are NOT interested in who is running in what race, you are NOT interested in whether Murray is playing Nadal or Federer… none of that matters, you are ONLY interested in the odds movement on Betfair or Betdaq…. if the odds are right, I’d bet on snail racing and I know naff all about that (although I might know of a few slugs)…. instead of setting your sights at me personally, why don’t you make some sensible comments and help the members out…. if your such an all fired expert at trading, share your knowledge. But I don’t think you can help the members at all, the saying "wind and piss" spring to mind…. try and be helpful for once…. were asking for help… yes I agree, I am possibly not the guy to give advice, but on balance of all probablitity that I’ve seen, when it comes down to me or you, I think that your case is the weaker…. so help if you can Ginge, or eff off…. because listening to back biters like you just wanna make me leave the forum…. all we are asking for is help.
Sorry Matron, but I may have spoken out of turn, but it appears that we have two opposites that are never going to attract, it is probably better for me to disappear again….. I can’t suffer fools gladly, and on top of my list of fools is Gingertipster….
MrE
If people stand idly by and let someone claim all sorts of stuff about Roulette, a game of chance with a built in profit for the house… It encourages others to believe Roulette is a way to riches and lose large sums because some xxxxx has told them it is possible.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roulette
Pay particular attention to what is said about the "house edge", "betting strategies and tactics" and "specific betting systems".
If you’ve won on Roulette, STOP! You will lose when the inevitable losing run hits.
Value Is EverythingOK Ginge, lets get one thing straight right now…. it is MY opinion and nobody else’s…. but you do NOT require to know the sport that you are trading in…. you are NOT interested in who is running in what race, you are NOT interested in whether Murray is playing Nadal or Federer…
none of that matters, you are ONLY interested in the odds movement on Betfair or Betdaq…. if the odds are right,
I’d bet on snail racing and I know naff all about that (although I might know of a few slugs)…. instead of setting your sights at me personally, why don’t you make some sensible comments and help the members out…. if your such an all fired expert at trading, share your knowledge.
MrE
That’s exactly the point Mr E, if the gambler/investor does not know the subject extremely well… then he/she has NO WAY of knowing "if the odds are right".
eg If two tennis players are going at it, and the odds at a given time are: 1/3 for player (A) and 5/2 player (B), if you don’t know the two players records well, then there is no way of knowing which is value/a good bet.
Value Is EverythingGinge….. it is probably better for me to disappear again…..
Frecking hell Ginge, you are worse than the bubonic plague that’s two with in a week or so you have
cyber murdered
. Keep this strike rate up and it will be only you and me left on here. Forget the ‘black death’ we got a ‘ginger epidemic’ on our hands.
Gaelic Warrior Gold Cup Winner 2026
yes I agree, I am possibly not the guy to give advice, but on balance of all probablitity that I’ve seen, when it comes down to me or you, I think that your case is the weaker…. so help if you can Ginge, or eff off…. because listening to back biters like you just wanna make me leave the forum…. all we are asking for is help.
Sorry Matron, but I may have spoken out of turn, but it appears that we have two opposites that are never going to attract, it is probably better for me to disappear again….. I can’t suffer fools gladly, and on top of my list of fools is Gingertipster….
MrE
If you think my "case is the weaker MrE, then why not stay and tear it to pieces?
Fact is whenever anyone questions any of your supposedly profitable ways… You run for the hills.Should all TRFers believe what every poster claims is true without evidence he/she knows what they are on about? Of course not.
Value Is Everything
I found that I could quite easily make a few quid "scalping", but I wanted to really get into "swing trading" where the odds movements are greater….. at this point it started to get harder, it was beginning to get more difficult to select which way the market was gonna move, but after a time I became more adept at this and choosing correctly and then "greening up" is awesome.
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