Toughest stable to predict runners from

[Zoso]

Which stable do you find the toughest to read.

For me I find the Pipe stable one of the hardest stables to read when they are going to be winning/losing. I can never get my head round Pipe runners and I generally avoid backing or laying them.

[seabird]

Barney Curley’s.

Colin

[clivex]

Of the big stables, Channon on the flat. Its not that hes a poor trainer or dodgy in any sense and his policy of running them hard is fair enough if he has the owners that prefer that, but it makes predictions difficult

Over the jumps…. Jonjo. Who else? Although given that hes "out of form" 10 months out of the year, then i suppose you could argue hes easy to read

[Smithy]

Sylvester Kirk

[the welsh wizard]

Henrietta Knight’s

[Fist of Fury 2k8]

Andy Turnell big quiet man with a strike rate of about 18% and 18 quid profit on all his runners….got a little private fun bet he will top 22 quid by the end of the season…….horses ok when they are on form and short prices they do fairly well but he seems to win with horses that look near useless. Has an uncanny ability of winning races when you least expect it and never seems to say much to the press.

Has more jockeys than my ex girlfriend and now he’s dragged a jockey off the flat to ride Blue Bajan in the tote…….was going to back it but now I am not so sure………actually think it will still win but why he does these things I have no idea. Very hard man to read.

[davidjohnson]

Channon on the flat. Its not that hes a poor trainer or dodgy in any sense

Lol.

William Haggas for me.

[Tony25]

I never bet horses from the following stables:

M.Channon
R.Hannon
C.Brittain
D.Elsworth
Tim Easterby
Evan Williams
J.R.Jenkins
Tom George

France

Robert collet
J.M.Capitte

Germany

U.Stoltefuss
Peter Schiergen

Ireland

Tony Martin

[clivex]

Channon on the flat. Its not that hes a poor trainer or dodgy in any sense

Lol.

William Haggas for me.

DJ…why are you laughing?? Care to explain??????

Haggas? I think hes fine myself. Maybe beacuse i follow him a bit, i can see the patterns. My gripe is with those that are seemingly scattergun or just hopeless

[golfmanjohn]

Jonjos stable is without the hardest to predict.No body comes near…

[Seagull]

On the subject of the Pipe runners when I used to go racing a lot it was always worth noting the antics of bookie Barry Dennis.
(His son Patrick used to be even worse!)

It is well documented that he has a freind D.J. who used to have the majority of the horses in the yard.

When Barry or Patrick were always on the joint early and seeming to be giving ‘the value’ on the Pipe runners it was time to look for some other horse to back!
However when they started calling the odds after the comrades around them and being skinny on the prices on offer it was time to back the Pipe horse they were short about!

With regard to Mark Johnston at Ascot and Goodwood backing anything sent down there blindly used to be very profitable!

[Drone]

If ‘toughest to read’ equates to ‘whacking loss’ when bet then it’s Mary/Keith Reveley.

[Himself]

They’re all tough to predict.

Gambling Only Pays When You're Winning

[golfmanjohn]

I agree with you on the M Johnson goodwood point.. But there is 1 easy way to make money on a M Johnson horse and that is never back his horses when they are favs..Its a golden rule..

[seabird]

Welcome to The Racing Forum, golfmanjohn.

Fists, are you suggesting that Andy Turnell is a big man physically?

Biggish for an ex-jockey but well below average height……I would agree with you that he is quiet.

Colin

[golfmanjohn]

Thanks for the welcome seabird…

[davidjohnson]

Sorry, I though ‘tough to read’ meant ‘wouldn’t trust as far as you could throw’

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