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August 7, 2013 at 19:15 #447777
Anyone that suggests with great confidence that one of these horses is certainly superior to the other is either an attention seeker or a guesser imo. There’s a fag paper between them on everything we’ve seen so far.
August 7, 2013 at 20:19 #447783Anyone that suggests with great confidence that one of these horses is certainly superior to the other is either an attention seeker or a guesser imo. There’s a fag paper between them on everything we’ve seen so far.
Agreed. There is so little between them that factors such as pace, course (I couldn’t have DA at Goodwood after the way he ran at Epsom) and trainer form (Hannon flying last week) are key.
I prefer to appreciate two wonderful racehorses than worry about which one is better.
August 7, 2013 at 20:24 #447784If Hayley led Nathan, she’d win. Both myself and Gord would be so fixated with a certain "view", we’d forget it was a race.
Very coltish!
August 7, 2013 at 20:35 #447786Well,well well,who’d have believed me and the man ‘Himself’ actually share the same interest in Football and Fighting.I too am a ‘Feenyan’, a Non religious one mind and have supported Celtic since 1974 when I first moved to Scotland.Do you remember the ‘Danny Mcgrain’ era? The Peter Latchfords in goal,the Billy Mcneils and Lou Macari’s? Legends of the club.As for Boxing I was a big fan of Ken Buchanan,Alan Minter and Nigel Benn..Do you agree the worst ever fighter from these shores apart from Audley Harrison was Richard Dunne??…..Geez he was bad.Do you remember a guy called Chris Pyatt?,Potential was there!
This is probably not the thread to continue this debate… but hey ho..
I remember Pyatt losing to the tremendous Steve Collins. Dunne was a good indicator of how bad the standard of British heavyweight boxing was at that time – but at least he can say he was once a punchbag for Ali.
Best boxer ever : that’s an easy one – Sugar Ray Robinson.
Do I remember those Cetic names ? Of course. I have attended many hundreds of Celtic matches throughout the decades, including seeing the Lisbon Lions in their hey day – although I wasn’t in Lisbon, I saw them a few weeks earlier when they beat Aberdeen 2-0 in the SC final, when the same 11 played. I have seen them all, from Jimmy Johnstone , Bobby Murdoch, Billy McNeill and Bobby Lennox, to Danny McGrain, George Connelly and my own hero, Kenny Dalglish – a real class act. I was there at Hampden ( 1965 ) when Jock Stein won his 1st ( Scottish )cup with Celtic, through to his last trophies in 1977 ( league and Cup double when Latchford featured ). I was there on the Monday evening in May, 1979 when the 10 men beat Rangers to win the league have been faithful " through and through " ever since. :
I was astonished at the crispness and accuracy of Ken Buchanan’s punches, Himself. I’ll never forget that. There’s so much mauling, hanging on, and optimistic or opportunistic (depending on how good they are), close-quarters punching in clinches, particularly among the heavier weights.
August 8, 2013 at 12:24 #447833Anyone that suggests with great confidence that one of these horses is certainly superior to the other is either an attention seeker or a guesser imo. There’s a fag paper between them on everything we’ve seen so far.
Is a "fag paper" worth a pound David?
Excellent work.
http://www.timeform.com/show_article.asp?num=3185Please thank your Halifax colleagues for some great analysis that allowed me to make good profits at Goodwood. incl. Winsili, Annecdote and Rex Imperator, 29/1, 29/1 and 18/1.
Mark
Value Is EverythingAugust 8, 2013 at 12:30 #447834Mark
I can think you can take a fair amount of the credit yourself for those selections.
Nice work.
August 8, 2013 at 16:45 #447853Is a "fag paper" worth a pound
Big Mac’s are.
Blackbeard to conquer the World
August 8, 2013 at 18:23 #447863Anyone that suggests with great confidence that one of these horses is certainly superior to the other is either an attention seeker or a guesser imo. There’s a fag paper between them on everything we’ve seen so far.
Is a "fag paper" worth a pound David?
Excellent work.
http://www.timeform.com/show_article.asp?num=3185Please thank your Halifax colleagues for some great analysis that allowed me to make good profits at Goodwood. incl. Winsili, Annecdote and Rex Imperator, 29/1, 29/1 and 18/1.
Mark
GT – There’s no such thing as self-adoration on this forum eh!
August 8, 2013 at 21:41 #447873Certainly not Oasis.
I was complimenting Timeform.Value Is EverythingAugust 9, 2013 at 09:58 #447891David Johnson can you not just give Ginger a job or put a word in for him at Timeform?
I hear he makes a decent brew and is quick at handing out the gingernuts.
Blackbeard to conquer the World
August 9, 2013 at 17:28 #447925David Johnson can you not just give Ginger a job or put a word in for him at Timeform?
I hear he makes a decent brew and is quick at handing out the gingernuts.
Ye,
Gizza job David!
I could do the 1-2-3 easy enoough, even put in a 4-5-6 if you wanted!Just don’t expect me to "make a decent brew"; hate tea and/or coffee and biscuits are banned in Diabeticland.
Can do a good "tap water and rivita".
Value Is EverythingAugust 9, 2013 at 18:46 #447939David Johnson can you not just give Ginger a job or put a word in for him at Timeform?
I hear he makes a decent brew and is quick at handing out the gingernuts.
Ye,
Gizza job David!Oh dear can you imagine it? Timeforms Racecard for next years Grand National and Gingeform is Top rating half the bloody field,thank Goodness the modern day Reg Griffin says No Ginge we dont need your 100% book! I’ll tell you who’s a free thinker on here and an excellent judge of a horse aswell as an original writer who could do worse than get involved in Racing journalism and thats……….No its not me but someone who is very nearly as good and in time could well surpass the King of the forum………..
Bozlike
! I know talent when I see it and this guys got it.Like me he knows that
My Tent or Yours
barring ill-fate…….God bless
Darlan
will win next years Champion hurdle,shame he’s not on at 33/1 mind!!
August 9, 2013 at 19:05 #447944Oh dear can you imagine it? Timeforms Racecard for next years Grand National and Gingeform is Top rating half the bloody field,thank Goodness the modern day Reg Griffin says No Ginge we dont need your 100% book! I’ll tell you who’s a free thinker on here and an excellent judge of a horse aswell as an original writer who could do worse than get involved in Racing journalism and thats……….No its not me but someone who is very nearly as good and in time could well surpass the King of the forum………..
Bozlike
! I know talent when I see it and this guys got it.Like me he knows that
My Tent or Yours
barring ill-fate…….God bless
Darlan
will win next years Champion hurdle,shame he’s not on at 33/1 mind!!
I beat you to the 33/1 on
Un Atout
though Gord
August 9, 2013 at 19:09 #447946Seriously though, kind words indeed Gord. Thank you
August 9, 2013 at 20:15 #447950Seriously though, kind words indeed Gord. Thank you
I’ve read some good judges on here over the years Boz,the likes of
Imperial Call
and
Carvills Hill
stand out from the past,I’d mention my old enemy
Fist
too along with more recent contributors like
Darren
and
Thehorsesmouth
who know there stuff.What you have that takes you to another level is the ability to add colour to your prose and thats what makes you instantly readable.I’d imagine most on here are pretty settled in their Professional careers so aren’t looking to promote their skills as serious Writers but there’s plenty who fit into that category,
Jonibake
,
Hammy
,
Betlarge
,
Olas
,
Oasisdreamer
to mention but a few and thats what makes this forum easily the most knowledgable and informative on the internet,if my memory serves me well I reckon we lost a good lad to Timeform a couple of years ago so this is certainly a good platform for those with the skills to sell themselves.If
Ginger
could just commit himself to picking one horse in a race instead of half of them, he certainly has the discipline to maintain a consistent approach to the game but nobody will ever know if he actually has the ability to identify a good horse as he treats them all as numbers!
August 9, 2013 at 21:18 #447959Seriously though, kind words indeed Gord. Thank you
I’ve read some good judges on here over the years Boz,the likes of
Imperial Call
and
Carvills Hill
stand out from the past,I’d mention my old enemy
Fist
too along with more recent contributors like
Darren
and
Thehorsesmouth
who know there stuff.What you have that takes you to another level is the ability to add colour to your prose and thats what makes you instantly readable.I’d imagine most on here are pretty settled in their Professional careers so aren’t looking to promote their skills as serious Writers but there’s plenty who fit into that category,
Jonibake
,
Hammy
,
Betlarge
,
Olas
,
Oasisdreamer
to mention but a few and thats what makes this forum easily the most knowledgable and informative on the internet,if my memory serves me well I reckon we lost a good lad to Timeform a couple of years ago so this is certainly a good platform for those with the skills to sell themselves.If
Ginger
could just commit himself to picking one horse in a race instead of half of them, he certainly has the discipline to maintain a consistent approach to the game but nobody will ever know if he actually has the ability to identify a good horse as he treats them all as numbers!
You’ve certainly named some good’ns there Gord. I look in on your thread these days more to read what Darren has to say.
Of course every punter needs to be able to "identify a good horse" Gord, but it is its price that makes the horse a good bet.
If you cared to actually take the time and look at my bets Gord, you’ll see I have Main bets, and saver bets. Anyone could easily put them in to first choice, second choice etc if they wished. Timeform understand the theories about backing more than one horse in a race, even if you don’t.
If you’d like to add up ALL bets (even my saver bets). My percentage profit is more than your percentage profit Gord. Because your
one horse
per race brings a
very poor
strike rate; where as
my strike rate more than makes up for my multiple bets.
Value Is EverythingAugust 9, 2013 at 21:45 #447965I was astonished at the crispness and accuracy of Ken Buchanan’s punches, Himself. I’ll never forget that. There’s so much mauling, hanging on, and optimistic or opportunistic (depending on how good they are), close-quarters punching in clinches, particularly among the heavier weights.
Again, no wish to hijack the thread, but I must tell you this one from KB’s autobiography. He went badly astray, especially with alcohol, and he grew his hair long, wore sunglasses all the time and managed to get a joinery job on a building site where the workers knew him only by his first name.
An agent came on site one day and recognised him, shook his hand and asked for an autograph, after which one of his mates approached in wonderment and said, "**** sakes, Ken, you must be some ******* joiner!"
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