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Its cant be resources though it does help Im sure.  Are good trainers better people managers, their staff then passing that ”love” onto the horses? Andre Fabre would be an exception to that but maybe he just dislikes the press.  Do bad "people" people make bad trainers? Does it matter? Or is it all about individual genius and less to do with the "team" employed by a handler.  Are there common traits that make all the great trainers great?
(Edited by Cavelino Rampante at 7:26 pm on Oct. 8, 2006)
There have been some fine trainers who you could not imagine being wonderful people managers…
Peter Walwyn, Dick Hern (maybe), Easterby’s, Alan Berry ( :o )
But as in any walk of life people management is the most important skill of all and yet the most underrated. I havent exactly spent my time running a major stable :cheesy: but with so many horses involved the trust and ease of cummincation between the boss and his staff must be vital.
From what i know this was very much the case at Cecil’s in his great days and also still very true at Stoutes
Interesting subject and im curious to hear what others know about different trainers and their managment styles…
Hmmm, <br>It’s the trainer’s name on the licence and they have to secure the funds to set up plus recruit and deal with owners.<br>That said I think much has to do with the quality of staff they surround themselves with.<br>Notwithstanding the fact that his stable suffered a virus, is it a coincidence that Peter Walwyn’s fortunes declined when he lost employees Matt McCormack and Ray Laing (Head Lad) both of whom became successful trainers in their own right?.<br>Henry Cecil lost key staff to his wife Julie when they split and she trained in her own right. I accept that some of his top owners like Lord Howard de Walden and Jim Joel died and were not replaced by other owners. <br>A shrewd secretary scouring the entries/race directory is also essential.<br>Also a tie up with a good judge of bloodstock – remember Guy Harwood and James Delahooke in the 70s/80s.?<br>Family connections also help (though A Berry has mucked up his legacy of a succesful yard) or taking on an established yard (R Charlton from J Tree)<br>
(Edited by Lingfield at 5:23 pm on Oct. 9, 2006)
Quote: from Cavelino Rampante on 7:24 pm on Oct. 8, 2006[br]Its cant be resources though it does help Im sure. Are good trainers better people managers, their staff then passing that ”love” onto the horses? Andre Fabre would be an exception to that but maybe he just dislikes the press. Do bad "people" people make bad trainers? Does it matter? Or is it all about individual genius and less to do with the "team" employed by a handler. Are there common traits that make all the great trainers great?
(Edited by Cavelino Rampante at 7:26 pm on Oct. 8, 2006)<br>
You know, if anyone thinks AOB is the same mild mannerd shy person when in Ballydoyle,…..youve appartently not worked there. <br>Nevertheless I think all good operations have efficient personel and some key people involved. Hard to get good staff.<br>
SHL
Success makes succesful trainers (and jockeys). Winning races attracts owners, shares of win fees retain good staff, regular win fees can be invested in better equipment and stabling, income security to remove horses not able to win races boosts strike rate which in turn attracts and gives confidence to richer owners able to buy top quality horses and run them in the right races.
Whether the success comes from hard work or making the very best of any opportunities once it goes it is gone.
shares of win fees retain good staff
But as in life, theres a lot more to it than that…
im still curious to know which trainers, anecdotally, have the management abilities of Mourniho and those that have the people skills of Hoddle….
As the going is deemed crucial to so many horses it would seem equally crucial that a pre-requiste of any trainer – great, bad or indifferent – would be to have a basic grasp of the drainage characteristics of, at the very least, his local track and have a rudimentary understanding of synoptic weather charts.
Come Saturday Ed Dunlop will no doubt churn out the ’48hr problem’ as an excuse for this morning’s explanation why he scratched Ouija Board from the Champion Stakes.
Good-to-firm anyone?
Well, I owe Ed Dunlop an apology.
Was pretty confident the going would dry out to at least good by saturday given the dry, sunny days and mild nights (little or no dew) but a cursory look at the times would indicate good-to-soft.
Overestimated the effects a lowish autumn sun would have methinks and didn’t account for the lack of wind needed to assist drying.
Shame Ouija Board didn’t run all the same and I wish her well in her swansong over the pond.
Good to see another mare win the Champion. Doncha just love a classy mature lady.
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