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    Getting close to becoming a cliff horse for me and I can make no watertight form case for him, just that I’m convinced he’s improved. 9/2 should be taken as it won’t last.

    Should arguably have won the Old Roan but for running into the back of the blundering Royal Regatta who beat him next time when GO must have been trading very short before stopping to nothing. Trainer then said he’d been close to withdrawing him that day because of the ground.

    There should be no ground complaints tomorrow, so he’s given another chance. Sandown hill should suit his finishing effort to a T over this trip. Sandown is also his last chance saloon!

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    Gods Own seems the logical choice to me. But only because UDS is having his first run of the season and because the next two in the betting – Sire de Grugy and Ar Mad – need it softer according to Gary Moore and also because of the stable form. Gary Moore won the five previous races at Sandown’s two-day meeting LAST YEAR prior to the Tingle Creek, this year his stable seems badly out of form (2 winners from his last 40 runners, with SDG being one of them).
    Otherwise, I would think that SDG is the one they all have to beat. Don’t know if Vibrato Valtat is G1 class over 2m miles these days. Don’t forget that the winner of this race is usually the 1st or 2nd Fav for the QM Chase. Can’t think why VV should be all of a sudden that good. Sir Valentino is at his best over 2 miles and this time of the year seems the right one for him, but he also should lack the class.

    So, if I would have a bet, it might be a toin coss between God Own and SDG, with a slight preference for Gods Own, because of the price and his win at Punchestown.

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    GO for me too. The ground should hopefully be ideal. I think both SDG and UDS will want it softer. Willie has already give his concerns over it. Ar Mad may need the run after the lay off. GL all :good:

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    Think Un De Sceaux is a banker here. Doesn’t have anything like the class of sprinter sacre to beat and also think he’s a good bet for the Queen Mum.

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    I won’t go as far as judge to say UN DE SCEAU is a banker, but
    despite it being a tad firmer than he wants I think if he’s fit enough he will
    be too good for them. It’s not a betting race for me, but it looks well worth
    watching. He’s obviously in with a shout in the Queen Mum judge, I’ll settle
    for Traffic Fluide at 33s in that one :good:

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    Ar Mad for me at 5/1.

    First run, back from injury and not exactly positive words from GM all go in the negative column, but this horse could be anything. For me the most exciting novice chaser of last season with some really decent form. The clock never lies and running 4 seconds faster than the Tingle Creek winning time was very impressive. He attacks his fences and runs well at Sandown and I think he will front run and take UDS out of his comfort zone a little bit.

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    A really tricky race to figure out with question marks over all the runners.

    Gods Own should run well and if this was being run in March or April then I would be all over him.However I just think he is a spring horse as he never seems to perform to his true capabilities at this time of year.

    Probably won’t have a punt in the race but think that the 2/1 about UDS could look huge come this evening.He would have been big odds on against this field last year.

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    The only good news I can take from this race is that it’s more unlikely Douvan runs in the King George now.
    UDS worth taking on imo 1st time out he could be fresh and run too keen

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    I’ve gone with Gods Own 9/2 with a saver on my old mate Sire De Grugy.

    Don’t get the ground theory for Un De Sceaux, just as effective on good ground. Has the best form, but is far more inconsistent when taken on for the lead. Moore duo should ensure doesn’t get his own way. This his reapperance too, though stable in good form.

    Ar Mad hasn’t run since injury/Plumpton and with UDS in the field – although likeable individual – looks a poor price to me. Thought about laying 9/2. Prefer stablemte. If this were softer ground I’d have my two bets the other way around. Although Sire De Grugy won his Champion Chase on (if anything) firmer ground, has since had foot prolems and it could be softer suits best these days. Or (as I hope) he’s over those troubles now. Impressive handicap performance last time. Even so, just a saver for me.

    Vibrato Valtat isn’t as far behind these than his odds suggest. However, his ability seems exposed and on form all the principles need to underperform for VV to win. Therefore cheek pieces need to work the proverbial, worth keeping an eye in the market.

    Gods Own is the main bet. Seems to have a habit of winning Grade 1’s when better horses than him fail. This time form gives him a real chance. Beaten last time but travelled well and finished as if not staying a truly run 2m5f. Has pace and ground ideal, should be right up his street. If recovered from a hard race should be competitive from an in form yard. Stable companion Sir Valentino was getting a lot of weight (off 147) when winning the Haldon Gold Cup. Seem to remember from somewhere had a breathing op in Summer. Might be able to improve a it more but this looks out of his league.

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    UN DE SCEAUX might just be too good here even on his first appearance of the season

    #1275520
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    I won’t go as far as judge to say UN DE SCEAU is a banker, but
    despite it being a tad firmer than he wants I think if he’s fit enough he will
    be too good for them. It’s not a betting race for me, but it looks well worth
    watching. He’s obviously in with a shout in the Queen Mum judge, I’ll settle
    for Traffic Fluide at 33s in that one :good:

    It’s pass the post mate.

    Also 8-1 for the Queen Mum? Just checked the odds and I’m astonished.

    If Douvan isn’t as good as they think then that’s a fantastic price. Douvan might end up at a longer trip but what other race can Un De Sceaux go for? People saying that he needs a longer trip are daft. He’s an out and out two miler.

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    I’ve never been a fan of Vibrato Valtat but I’ve had a small bet as he looks about 10 points bigger than he should be at 25/1

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    Hopefully Ar Mad runs well but no bet in this for me.

    #1275547
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    I will stay loyal to Ar Mad.

    #1275548
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    UDS a lay at that price

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    Never in doubt B-)

    #1275552
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    Great race. Good return to the racecourse by Ar Mad.

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