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- November 27, 2006 at 08:16 #491
Hi
<span style=”font-size: 12px;”>Have you ever bought a TimeForm Annual?</span>
I have never bought one.  Shame on me! "sorry…."
If you do how do you put it to good use?
byefrom<br>carlisle<br>
(Edited by carlisle at 8:19 am on Nov. 27, 2006)
November 27, 2006 at 13:20 #32214I’ve got them all back to 61 and a few earlier ones as well. I eagerly await their arrival and avidly read the essays on the leading or more controversial horses.
I like to go back over them from time to time and it makes fascinating reading to look at a young horse who later becomes a champion racehorse or influential stallion.
However I cannot say that they have made one jot of a difference to my betting with the exception of my 40/1 bet on North Light for the Derby.
November 27, 2006 at 13:28 #32215Limited use as a betting tool but, as Adrian says, fascinating reading both at the time and for many years afterwards. Expensive, but very much value for money.
November 27, 2006 at 14:18 #32216Stopped buying them in 2004. Will occasionally look at some of my old ones and find them great for bringing back memories of years gone by.<br>Stopped buying flat form books in 2005. If anyone desperate for some 1971 to 2004 flat form books (in varying conditions), let me know.
November 27, 2006 at 14:27 #32217Quote: from Grasshopper on 2:20 pm on Nov. 27, 2006[br]<br>Some of the short commentaries are picquantly observed though. :biggrin: :cool:
If I knew what ‘picquantly’ meant, I would fully concur. :biggrin:
November 27, 2006 at 16:25 #32218I used to get them each year but haven’t for 2 or 3 years now. Main reason is that I never really got round to reading them!
November 27, 2006 at 16:35 #32219No. I personally don’t rate anything Timeform does. If I used their figures I’d be a tramp in a gutter by now.
Still can’t get over their 138 for Celtic Swing lol I will never get over that till the day I die. ;)
November 27, 2006 at 16:36 #32220I find the annuals little more than a thoroughly enjoyable review of the past season; one that revives memories good and bad in an incomparably lucid, rational and objective manner with a little gentle humour thrown in for good measure. It’s probably due in some measure to the world-weariness that accompanies the passing of the years but I do find the essays – in general – are a tad more prone to cliche and sensationalism than in days of yore but that’s nit-picking really.
As an aid to betting/form study I’d echo Grasshopper’s comments about the opening of eyes for the novice; but racing, particularly on the Flat, is too dynamic for the supplied ratings to be of much use months down the road.
The annuals themselves are a pleasure to own, admire and handle being most tactile, sensuous and aromatic. Robust shelves a must for storage.
November 27, 2006 at 17:03 #32221Quote: from The Market Man on 4:35 pm on Nov. 27, 2006[br]Still can’t get over their 138 for Celtic Swing lol I will never get over that till the day I die
Don’t we know it.
November 27, 2006 at 17:12 #32222Just a quick look at the RP website shows a topspeed for Celtic Swing at 135 and RPR at 133.
November 27, 2006 at 17:25 #32223Quote: from davidjohnson on 5:12 pm on Nov. 27, 2006[br]Just a quick look at the RP website shows a topspeed for Celtic Swing at 135 and RPR at 133.
<br>Still way too high.
I won’t go on about it, I do have a tendancy to rant I know lol.
November 27, 2006 at 20:19 #32224It’s a no for me .. I’m not really interested in what other people think, I’ve got plenty of opinions of my own which I hold in the highest regard.<br>:biggrin:
November 28, 2006 at 08:41 #32225Hi dave jay
why am I not surprised.  Sorry mate you asked for that one.
byefrom<br>carlisle
"No man is a cottage pie"
(Edited by carlisle at 8:41 am on Nov. 28, 2006)
November 28, 2006 at 12:22 #32226Cheers carlisle .. the only thing this publication would be good for is generating a list of horses to lay or levelling up a table with a short leg.
This book is by far more useful, in my humble opinion.
November 28, 2006 at 12:54 #32227<br>humble pie!<br>
November 30, 2006 at 17:49 #32228Often thought about it, but a bit like Wisden, a lot of it would remain unread and i would wonder too (especially on the flat) what real use it would be going forward.
But regardless of their ratings, i do like the quality of the writing (from the bits ive seen)
On a more basic level, the 50 to follow on Timeform is a nice pre season read and I was impressed with the Trainers Statistical review this year.
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