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    I’ve used it and I’ve used the form in the Racing Post and I don’t see much difference in my returns.

    I was thinking about the Post. It would be nice to be able to buy daily racing form without all the hot air racing journalism that goes with it. This could be done for half the cover price, surely?

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    I’ve used it and I’ve used the form in the Racing Post and I don’t see much difference in my returns.

    I was thinking about the Post. It would be nice to be able to buy daily racing form without all the hot air racing journalism that goes with it. This could be done for half the cover price, surely?

    They could, but why would they sell half the content for half the price when they can sell all the content for the full price?
    I agree it rubs a bit, but businesses are greedy entities who like to sell you stuff you don’t want along with the stuff you do want.

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    I’m intrigued no one has mentioned the ATR database. I use it quite often and find it perfectly acceptable, and the future form function very useful. Does anyone else use it and is it much better/worse than other databases you pay for?

    Haven’t looked at the ATR database/racecards but if it’s on a par with the RP’s then yes it’s a valuable resource that offers terrific value for (no?) money and therefore more than "perfectly acceptable"

    In my opinion once you’ve found a formbook you’re content with stick with it and don’t experiment by tinkering with others. Individually they all have subtle differences and nuances unique to them be that ratings, race/horse comments or navigation, the interpretation of which becomes easier and ever-more familiar over time

    I use Timeform for no other reason than ‘I always have’ and feel I fully understand their rating methods and can ‘read between the lines’ of their commentaries. I place some faith in their interpretation of a race/horse but more faith in mine. Therefore Timeform is used in a somewhat negative sense: if I happen to agree with them, fine but it irks a bit, as given their market exposure and Godhead standing amongst the impressionable the price is not likely to be right; if I happen to disagree, good-oh good-oh, as the price is more likely to be right.

    The Isaac Einsteins of the punting world such as Robert99 will always sneer at those who place reliance on third-party ratings and formbooks as their only way to go is via the compilation of a personal handicap using possibly unique methods. Yes indeed, wouldn’t disagree but for those such as me too lazy and/or incompetent to do this, then using a third-party service as a foundation on which to lay your own bricks is "perfectly acceptable" provided one treats that foundation as wattle-and-daub not reinforced concrete

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    Agree with much of the above Drone, particularly that ratings are a guide, rather than scriven in stone. Having used such as Raceform and Timeform over the years, I’m quite content to use the oft-maligned RPR and T/S as a starting point, and add my own interpretation as I go along.
    One thing I am certain of is that nobody – individual or organisation – can pin a horse down to the nearest lb, and there’d be little future in betting horses to such narrow margins anyway.

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    Free Timeform racecards for all races with a Godolphin runner are available on their excellent website.

    http://www.godolphin.com/Entries.aspx

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    Free Timeform racecards for all races with a Godolphin runner are available on their excellent website.

    http://www.godolphin.com/Entries.aspx

    Is that until the end of the season, then? :D

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