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  • #20667
    Eclipse First
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    Probably one of the most talented horses in training but a complete barmpot. First run for Mr Nicholls, maybe they are training him for the National though who in the right mind would want to be a passenger while he ponders those fences I cannot imagine. I backed him in the race last year knowing full well he was as likely to deposit his rider in one of the fences as win on the bridle, sadly his pilot baled out at the first opportunity but who could blame him!

    Definitely not one to back with any confidence and best watched today to see whether his enthusiasm has been rekindled.

    #385223
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    The horse simply can’t jump fences, and is quite capable of blowing these away over hurdles.
    At 8/1, and with the dead 8, looks almost a bet to nothing e.w.

    #385236
    KINGFISHERKINGFISHER
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    Eclipse,you have chosen to highlight another one of ‘my’ horses and again like you say if this fellows in the mood he’ll carry this lot,8/1 is a solid e/w price and compared to the stables odds-on fav who’s beaten nothing to date i cant see another danger.I would like to think Paul Nichols has him pretty straight for this as the Wylies like a winner at Cheltenham.The only thing that puts me off is the fact reet fancies him too and i cant remember him ever putting up a winner! :lol:
    Are you doing a write-up on

    Calgary Bay

    by any chance next? :wink:

    #385253
    Gazs Way De SolzenGazs Way De Solzen
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    Looks like he is being strongly supported in the betting too, although may be influenced by the withdrawal of Get Me Out Of Here and also No Secrets.

    From 10/1 into 6/1 with Stan James.

    Should run well.

    #385256
    BosranicBosranic
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    One of my favourites. Beats Challenger Du Luc by a head in the race for ‘Most Talented Rogue’ in my lifetime.

    In my opinion, only a handful of horses could boast superior talent over the past few years. If his application matched his ability – and he could jump – he would have been a threat to all over fences.

    Always entertaining to watch.

    #385261
    BosranicBosranic
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    Looking at Tiday Bay on the run-in, I would estimate he gave about 70% effort. Even that maybe generous.

    #385273
    Eclipse First
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    I would say 70% was indeed generous, the key to getting some of his real ability to show through would be jockey that could play him at his own games. Makes you wonder how good those that finished behind him today really are. Possibly one of the few horses that could beat Big Bucks come March if he were to run in the race, though perhaps they may send him chasing again.

    It will be interesting to see where he heads next apart from the psychiatrists.

    #385274
    Seven TowersSeven Towers
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    He seemed to be looking into the sky for divine inspiration between the last 2 flights :shock:

    #385282
    obiwankenobi
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    He seemed to be looking into the sky for divine inspiration between the last 2 flights :shock:

    Runs like a horse with a back problem.

    #385286
    ajiaji
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    Either

    – he has a physical problem and is too brave or nice to complain
    – he is more intelligent that most of the people who have ridden him and is crying out for another intellectual to play with him

    He looked nice in the parade ring today, could have won.

    #385304
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    One of my favourites. Beats Challenger Du Luc by a head in the race for ‘Most Talented Rogue’ in my lifetime.

    In my opinion, only a handful of horses could boast superior talent over the past few years. If his application matched his ability – and he could jump – he would have been a threat to all over fences.

    Always entertaining to watch.

    How about Maylane?

    #385305
    SteeplechasingSteeplechasing
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    I’ve been convinced since he ‘went wrong’ that something is ailing him. Some of you might recall Bird’s Nest a top class 70s hurdler who got called various names for his habit of hanging severely under pressure. A post-mortem revealed a serious heart problem.

    Horses with form figures like TB’s in his early days do not suddenly become rogues imo.

    22/111221/111211

    Never argue with a fool. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience, then onlookers might not be able to tell the difference. https://lazybet.com/

    #385309
    paulostermeyerpaulostermeyer
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    Bearing in mind who used to train him – anything is possible.

    #385310
    BosranicBosranic
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    I’ve been convinced since he ‘went wrong’ that something is ailing him. Some of you might recall Bird’s Nest a top class 70s hurdler who got called various names for his habit of hanging severely under pressure. A post-mortem revealed a serious heart problem.

    Horses with form figures like TB’s in his early days do not suddenly become rogues imo.

    22/111221/111211

    His form figures strongly suggest that he’s a bit too smart for the game now. If, indeed, he does suffer from a physical problem – John Francome has always insisted it could be his back – I doubt he would have held his form quite so well over three years in three serperate disciplines.

    In my opinion, Brian Hughes handled him beautifully. I had never seen a jockey tweak his mounts ears just to humour him until the Cleeve Hurdle in 2010. It duly worked that day, with Tidal Bay hammereing Time For Rupert. Unfortunately, Tidal Bay worked that one out pretty quickly and hasn’t won since. Imagine his horror when realising he’d been had!

    I hear he was bit of bully at Howard Johnson’s, liking nothing more than torturing his stable lass by dragging her around his box should she dare to enter.

    How about Maylane?

    Ah, I remember Maylane. Would always swerve coming out of the stalls and realised that was one nifty trick to try and get rid of his jockey – dumped Michael Roberts on more than one occasion, if memory serves me well.

    I thought it was thing of beauty when they tried the old bugger’s hoofs at hurdling. Lined up a couple of times – yet never jumped one hurdle in public! He was far too smart to fall for that one.

    Maylane vs Green Green Desert. Now that would have been interesting…

    #385317
    SteeplechasingSteeplechasing
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    Bos, TB’s form comments are peppered with ‘ran on’ kept on’, ‘stayed on’ ‘rallied’ – hardly the life story of a horse with character problems. For some reason he simply cannot jump well enough to keep himself in contention.

    Never argue with a fool. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience, then onlookers might not be able to tell the difference. https://lazybet.com/

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