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Anyone watching this series? Can’t believe how I can watch something for an hour and alternate between laughing and feeling numb with horror throughout. SO, so powerful. I only saw the second half of the film when it was shown prior to the start of the series, so I’ve just bought it. I also need to see Shane Meadows’ other films again.
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Been watching this hoping for something decent to happen and not really sure what the point of the series is, also last nights rape scene was disgusting and uncalled for.
6/10 – Some funny bits but largely misguided representation of Britain in 86
I really enjoyed the film but this series doesn’t quite reach the same level even though it does have it’s moments.
The rape scene was very uncomfortable viewing. With the previous rape accusation earlier in the episode it was clear what was going to happen so we didn’t need to see it in such graphic detail. Then again I was hoping Woody and gang were going to break in and kick the crap out of him.
I’d imagine that happens in the next episode. The thing is, I’d started to think [remember,I hadn’t seen the film] that Lol was actually dellusional and the accusation against her father was wrong…so as it all unfolded I was just filled with absolute dread and horror. However, I didn’t feel that it was gratuitous in any way. I discussed it with my daughter today, and we both said that we just felt ‘so this is how a situation like this can happen to someone, and this is why they don’t just run away screaming for help’. I checked out Shane Meadows on [the gospel that is] Wikipedia, and read that his father was[wrongly] accused of the murder of a young girl, which resulted in him being ostracised at school; I can remember the series of murders [happened 20 odd years ago] and the bodies were found not too many miles from where I live, and I still feel awful when I drive anywhere near Twycross Zoo; didn’t realise that one was found near Uttoxeter, where he was brought up.
Moe, Shane has strong connections with Nottingham and Derbyshire.
Dead Man’s Shoes
– perhaps his most accessible film, at least to those who of us who weren’t mods, skinheads or punks as kids – is partially filmed at Riber Castle and the surrounding estates. I’m sure you’ll recognise the accents and environments.
But beware – the last thirty minutes are heartbreaking and leave a mark, like many of his films.
There’s a heartwarming urban myth round our way that Shane is a Notts County fan – there are several references to the Magpies in his films, as he watched them when he was a student here – but in fact he supports Stoke City.
Is that for real, Max? Everything I’ve read about him goes on about his support for Notts County. Actually,thinking about it, if he grew up in Uttoxeter Stoke would be his nearest town. Have just been to see another ‘local lad made good’..Robert Lindsay in ‘Onassis’ at the Derby Theatre [the only other ones being John Hurt who is patron of The Quad..and Florence Nightingale who is, obviously, dead, and a lass..]. Must now google Onassis to find out if all the things I saw tonight are true. I’ve seen bits of other Shane Meadows films on the telly over the years, and just been horrified by the violence. Dead Mans Shoes is based on someone he knew from Uttoxeter. Maybe watching all these Swedish films recently has made more more tolerant of violence?
He’s definitely a Stoke fan, Moe. I spent ages thinking he followed Notts, but its an urban myth. Still, he’s given us a lot of publicity.
DMS isn;t that violent. It’s more psychological in impact. Just listening to the accents in DMS is worth it, Moe. It’s so unusual to hear the East Midlands accent on the tellEH, meduck.
Oh, I forgot about about Samantha Morton. Also enjoyed watching Alan Davies’s Teenage Revolution last night. I feel sorry for the youth of today not having anything to protest about..or, if they have, not bothering to do so. You can’t beat a good protest imo….
Some funny bits but largely misguided representation of Britain in 86
So
Dancing Brave
never gets a mention then?
I agree about Dead Man’s Shoes – excellent fim. Paddy Considine is superb. Check him out in another of Shane Meadows’s early films, " A Room For Romeo Brass ": you’ll love it.
As for This Is England ’86. Loved the film, and was really looking forward to the mini series. I have to be honest and say I’m slightly disappointed. Apart from one or two scenes; especially the harrowing rape scene, in which Meadow’s is making a very thought provoking point, the acting and script has left a lot to be desired.
Stephen Graham is fantastic and I look forward to seeing him in next week’s episode. Most of the cast aren’t really good actors – especially Gadge, Shaun ( and his mum ! ) but Joe Gilgun ( Woody ) and Vicky McClure ( Lol ), who incidentally, are dating one another in real life, are the exception.
I think Meadows has attempted to do a midlands "Shameless" with this, but it falls well short on of that standard. Watchable none the less.
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I thought they weren’t real actors, and it was only luck that meant most of the original cast were available for the series? I saw ‘Shaun’ in The Scouting Book for Boys, a film that I loved but the S.O. found stomach churning. One man’s meat, I suppose. [Rather chuffed that Woody and Lol are an item. And adore ‘Smell’ who is by far the worst actor of the lot, if not the worst actor of all time.
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