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- November 10, 2011 at 08:27 #377028
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hi Daz, interesting system . These things take time to realise there potential .
Ive been following third favs in various runner races for the past few months now. Paperwork mountain is getting out of control now . Just when you think you have cracked it the walls fall down .
Anyway, not sure if you have read " Words from the wise" . By Fenman . Its basically a journal from fenman the racing correspondent from a few years back . It contains a few systems similar to what your trialing . Im not saying you should follow them but they may give you some ideas and with a bit of mixing up you may find a new angle .
Good luck for the futureNovember 10, 2011 at 12:31 #377087Hi tobie10
I have a copy of fenmans book the systems are good, alot are based on using the daily mail. ive used 3rd fav in handicaps of 9-12 runners on the all weather using the sun newspaper betting focast,4th place in the forcast does well, if you fancy doing two selections per race.
Regrds Daz.
Bank now at 2.25+ profit.
Thursdays 10th nov
Ludlow. 2.00 COOTHILL 1 Point win.Best wishes.
Daz
November 10, 2011 at 17:52 #377138
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unlucky with coothill , ive done quite a bit of study on 3rd favs . There was an alarming amount of 3rd favs in 10 runner races coming in , not all were winners but 3rd favs are normally not less than 5/1 so a place bet at least you get your stake back . The problem is with the study is that i hate anything i cant find an explanation for . I mean there was no reason for the amount of 3rd favs that were winning or placed .
As everything, it came to an end ,but had you of backed each way you would of deff had a healthy profit for 4/5 weeks on the bounce .
Am currently looking at 9/2 2nd favs in races of 12 runners or more . Again , you have the fail safe of place money at least .November 10, 2011 at 23:31 #377212Bank now at 1.25+ profit
Selction for friday 11th nov 2011
1.45 Cheltenham HAVINGOTASCOOBYDO 2 Points win.
Regards.
Daz.
November 12, 2011 at 01:41 #377424Unlucky 2nd again bank now at 0.75- loss.
Saturdays bet 12th nov 2011.
2 points win 2.35 MON PERRAIN.
Regards.
Daz
November 12, 2011 at 09:48 #377464Good morning
darrell
.
Many of the most valuable races will be monster handicaps as per today with 20 declared.
Many folk love these big fields, or so we are told by the media, although myself I try hard to give them a miss.
I was thinking about if the selections were NON handicap races only.
There are two Listed races of the same value £17K at Lingfield, the race with the smallest field 2.15 and Templegate tips HUNTERS LIGHT best morning BOG 7/4
I wonder?
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November 12, 2011 at 16:31 #377553Hunters Light won – thank goodness for BOG

GAUVAIN tomorrow Cheltenham 1.45
Won
Overnight BOG 100/30 with Betfred
Two from two, now that ain’t bad showing £5.20 profit to £1 stake
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November 13, 2011 at 01:33 #377603Well done billion nice win, will watch with interest..
Selection for sunday 13th nov 2011.
2 points win.
Cheltenham. 2.20 KUMBESHWAR.Regards.
Daz.
November 13, 2011 at 22:02 #377748Two winners in two days, now this may be worth looking at more closly billion.I dare not abandone my method because, bacause sods law it will win, so im going to stick with it its only4.75loss so far, so i havent lost much.
It might be worth using the fibonacce staking plan with your method, if the losing runs are short, what do you think. Anyway it looks like you have found a gem of a method here, good luck with it, i will be betting the selections this week using the above staking plan.
Regards.
Daz.
November 13, 2011 at 22:39 #377751Good luck if you do so
darrell
Because it is experimental at this stage I am playing the smallest of stakes, 1% of a £50 bank thus starting at 50p until I know it is trustworthy.
The credit is really all yours, I simply put a
safety
twist on your ideas, after all non handicaps are said to have more reliable form albeit smaller odds.
So far the wins have come in "nice" races but I wonder how it will do on a dull & cold Monday at a lesser track.
We shall see.

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November 14, 2011 at 09:33 #377792Keep up the good work Billion, your my favourite for TRF poster of the year, just don’t go flashing your privates when you go get your award……

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November 14, 2011 at 09:36 #377793Monday’s cards

Can anyone find a proper non handicaps race?
Plumpton
1.00/1.30/2.00 Novices
2.30/3.00/3.30 Handicaps
4.00 BumperLeicester
1.20 Novice
1.50 Juvenile
2.20 Seller
2.50/3.20/3.50 HandicapsWolverhampton – Low grade racing
2.10 Maiden
2.40 Seller
3.10 Handicap
3.40 Claimer
4.10/4.40/5.10/5.40 HandicapsI must confess to ignorance regarding the status of Novice/Bumper/Juvenile/Seller/Claimer races but they have not inspired me into making a selection today.
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November 14, 2011 at 09:55 #377797Keep up the good work Billion, your my favourite for TRF poster of the year, just don’t go flashing your privates when you go get your award……

What can one say except I owe it all to my mother and father for providing the vitamin C during the war years when rationing was hard, and we made do with powdered milk and bubble and squeak from yesterdays left overs. I was kept warm during the harsh winters with an extra coat on the bed to help keep me warm but confess to loving the frost patterns on the inside of the windows.
I would also like to thank the school dinner lady who always managed to keep the dinners warm (just) for when I was last in the queue and my teachers because they never ever gave me more than six strokes of the cane at any one time.
My final thanks must go to Dr Beeching for not axing the steam railway line between the coast and Colchester during my early working years, it was hard getting up at 5.30 a.m. and not getting back home until the end of Corrie (black & white then) at 8.00 p.m. but never once during those long apprenticeship years do I remember the trains being cold.
Perhaps I should also say a big thank you to my wife and family for all there support when things were hard and we never thought I would be in a position to recieve any votes whatsoever but here in is the moral, never give up, keep on trying even during the darkest of times but last of of I must say the nightly cup of Horlicks from
Matron
is a massive help, sleeping does not come easily these days and there is plenty of noise in Ward 7 and without a good nights sleep I could never continue to apply myself in the way I do in order to inspire the young upstarts such as
Nathan
.
Thank-you, thank-you, thank-you so much.

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November 14, 2011 at 12:45 #377820Matron………make him stop!

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November 14, 2011 at 12:51 #377822Selection for monday 14th nov 2011.
1.30 Plumpton MEGASTAR 3 Points win.
Regards.
Daz.
November 15, 2011 at 12:12 #377995
Selection for tuesday 15th nov 2011.3 Points win. 2.40 Fakenham,LARKS LAD.
Regards.
Daz.
November 15, 2011 at 12:24 #377997I am always confused with race clarification.
I myself did look at Fakenham 2.40 NOVICE CHASE but although not stated as aa handicap I do understand them (novice races) to be so.
Yet the 3.40 Fakenham is said to be a NOVICE HANDICAP HURDLE which is clear enough as a handicap race.
Why then is the 2.40 considered a HANDICAP race?
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