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  • #343514
    Ardrossthegreat
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    Here’s the list for anyone intereested and there are plenty of short ones…

    1994 Barna Boy 6th 10/1
    1995 Who is Equiname 10th 33/1
    1996 Kimanicky 2nd 11/2
    Brave Patriarch PU 66/1
    1997 No runners
    1998 No runners
    1999 Perfect venue 8th 50/1
    All Gong 9th 25/1
    2000 Dusk Duel 9th 8/1
    2002 Got One Too 10th 16/1
    Dungarvens Choice 15th 25/1
    2003 Chauvinist – 3rd 20/1
    2004 Fleet Street – 3rd 20/1
    Perle de Puce – PU 8/1
    2005 No Runners
    2006 No Runners
    2007 Amaretto Rose – 3rd 2/1f
    2008 Binocular – 2nd 8/1co-fav
    Khyber Kim – 10th 17/2
    Sentry Duty – 15th 11/1
    2009 Ainama – 8th 14/1
    2010 Oscar Whisky – 4th 11/1
    General Miller – UR 25/1

    Yeah not Nickys fav race on the stats……..i really cant see Cue Card passing this one up either…wouldnt be at all surprised to see Cue Card win by a big distance here…congrats on the nice prices will set you up nicely for the rest of the meeting

    #343516
    Avatar photoRubyisgodinthesaddle
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    I think Day of a lifetime could win the supreme if willie goes for it. The supreme is a weaker division than neptune in terms of depth and cue card can easily bomb out on the day. He jumps good too.

    #343518
    Ardrossthegreat
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    I think Day of a lifetime could win the supreme if willie goes for it. The supreme is a weaker division than neptune in terms of depth and cue card can easily bomb out on the day. He jumps good too.

    Yeah i agree bout Day of a Lifetime……i can see that one filling a place…..that one will be an each way saver for me on the day

    #343547
    johnjdonoghue
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    Willie Mullins has said that he has slight worries about running Day of a Lifetime in the supreme due to inexperience, he may go for the Neptune.

    JohnJ

    #343551
    johnjdonoghue
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    Just checked BF, for small money Day of a Lifetime shorter on Supreme market than Neptune for what its worth!

    #343554
    miniman
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    Haven’t got a clue what Day of A Lifetime’s target is. THe price on betfair may well be shorter for the supreme and it may be an indication of the target especially as the money for the supreme is very recent. I have been tracking the price for both races and up until yesterday, I thought the Neptune was the likelier option looking purely at BF price. He was available to back at 50s for the Supreme over the weekend and has been backed in with the last matched price of 29. Still I am bamboozled by the choice as I think he would go well in the Supreme even though he has had just the one run over the timber

    #343570
    Avatar photoImperial Call
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    According to Patrick Day Of A Lifetime runs in the Supreme. So Young goes for the Neptune.

    #343579
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    Here’s the list for anyone intereested and there are plenty of short ones…

    1994 Barna Boy 6th 10/1
    1995 Who is Equiname 10th 33/1
    1996 Kimanicky 2nd 11/2
    Brave Patriarch PU 66/1
    1997 No runners
    1998 No runners
    1999 Perfect venue 8th 50/1
    All Gong 9th 25/1
    2000 Dusk Duel 9th 8/1
    2002 Got One Too 10th 16/1
    Dungarvens Choice 15th 25/1
    2003 Chauvinist – 3rd 20/1
    2004 Fleet Street – 3rd 20/1
    Perle de Puce – PU 8/1
    2005 No Runners
    2006 No Runners
    2007 Amaretto Rose – 3rd 2/1f
    2008 Binocular – 2nd 8/1co-fav
    Khyber Kim – 10th 17/2
    Sentry Duty – 15th 11/1
    2009 Ainama – 8th 14/1
    2010 Oscar Whisky – 4th 11/1
    General Miller – UR 25/1

    That makes very interesting reading. Any theories as to why the record is as it is? Or is it just a case of him being ‘due one’.

    He seems to be a very patient trainer who wouldn’t ask too much of a horse too early (doesn’t like the Cheltenham Bumper for that reason). He often keeps his good young horses away from tough competition in their early days. Maybe as a consequence, despite having abundant class, some of his horses are not streetwise enough for the supreme at that stage of their career?

    Oscar Whisky last year is a prime example, two odds on canters in his novice hurdle season before the supreme. I remember him saying in Feb ’10 that he ran OW at Sandown on a Friday instead of facing Menorah at Ascot a day later.

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    I don’t have a theory but it is strange, particularly compared to his Triumph record with equally inexperienced horses…

    Perhaps this is his year, but I couldn’t back either at around the 5/1 or 6/1 mark

    C’mon Cue Card :D

    #343704
    Avatar photoGazs Way De Solzen
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    Does anyone know if Dunraven Storm is a definite runner in the race?

    Thanks.

    #343719
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    I read (one of the preview night reports I think) that he’d had a slight setback but the Hobbs team were still hopeful

    I’ve had a little dabble e/w at 40/1 NRNB

    #343722
    Avatar photoGazs Way De Solzen
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    Thanks for the information!

    I was going to have a bet on him.

    #343746
    Avatar photoPerpetual
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    Found it – from the Exeter preview:
    Philip Hobbs (PH)
    PH: Cue Card is very good but I agree with Nick that not running for a while may be an issue. Dunraven Storm has a squeak if I can get him there but he banged a joint this week.

    #343748
    Avatar photoRubyisgodinthesaddle
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    I very confident in Day of a lifetime if he turns up.

    Looks likely now

    #343770
    johnjdonoghue
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    Any reason why it is more likely?

    #343788
    sandwith100
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    Cue Card from looks very solid. The stats may be against him but all the form points to him and the form of the opposition looks unconvincing. His hurdling is very good and the faster they go the better it will be for him (lets face it this one is not going to be tactical !! ) reading between the lines i think Tizzard has been itching to have a crack at the Champion Hurdle but the owners have lowered his sights.
    I am loathed to have a big punt on the first race of the festival but i am sorely tempted with Cue Card, i have a feeling he could win this with plenty to spare.

    #343808
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    Paddy Power have gone "Cue Card wins and you get your money back on all other bets", they’ve got it right the last 2 years and I think they’ve got it right this year too.

    Zaidpour will have a very good chance, the better ground and distance will be in his favour. I’ve also had a NRNB on Marsh Warbler. He may go to the Triumph, in which case he’ll win it (just my opinion) but hopefully he runs in this, he’ll have an outstanding chance.

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