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  • #1348530
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    Just as well there were no odds available. I wonder why they left him out? Fabre was fairly adamant he would run.

    I would imagine the going at Saint-Cloud is heavy, it always seems to be that way. For all the attraction of France as a holiday hotspot there seems to be more rain there than there is in the Amazonian Rainforest.

    Plenty time yet to prep for Ascot though.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    I was thinking that Le Brivido surely just plain and simply isn’t a good enough horse to win the Queen Anne but I don’t think he’ll have to be to win this looking at the opposition.

    If we’re being honest, as hardy as he is Lancaster Bomber isn’t a world beater. He threw in another bad run out in Dubai and even on his good days he keeps coming up short.

    Benbatl and Thunder Snow both looked good in Dubai but rarely does form from that meeting carry on to the European turf season. Trais Flours, Addeyb, Beat The Bank and Zonderland just don’t look that good and the American World Approval looked classy last year but was hammered at odds of 4/9 on his reappearance last month and probably won’t come.

    Rhododendron would probably win this if she was campaigned to do so but I imagine the ‘Lads’ will be thinking of an Autumn campaign for the filly.

    So, Le Brivido at 7/1 still makes appeal bearing in mind with a winning seasonal appearance he could start 7/4 favourite on the day.

    I think that 12/1 was a good sniper shot Steve.

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    Le Brivido was my main bet at Royal Ascot last year and probably will be again. I’ve taken the 7/1 and not much more to say that hasn’t been covered already.

    Benbatl is favourite for the race, one assumes they want to avoid the likes of Enable & Cracksman over middle distances this season and go for the mile division. Not heard any confirmation of that though. Although Meydan form isn’t always replicated he does have Ascot form and looks very talented to my eye.

    Deauville was 3rd in this last year and although he’s probably better over further he could follow the Benbatl route and swerve the likes of Enable. Although Ribchester’s renewal was hardly a classic this year is looking particularly weak so it wouldn’t be a complete shock to see him go closer. He has entries at Naas & in the Tattersalls Gold Cup so despite his exclusion from the Aidan O’Brien At The Races stable tour he must still be in training.

    Alexios Komnenos won the Desmond Stakes last year and appears to be quite fragile as he was only seen once after then. Not sure about his current status but he was beaten only a neck behind Churchill as a 2 y-o and the Stack yard could get one ready to go first time out if he did show up at Royal Ascot when (or if) he returns.

    Blair House was disadvantaged by a poor draw on Saturday and his previous beating of Benbatl probably shouldn’t be taken with an overwhelming degree of trust. Nevertheless, he has improved since going to Meydan. If he comes back (and he did endure a lot of racing in Dubai) he might be a contender, although a suspicion lingers that he would enjoy further than a mile. I would need to see him run well away from Meydan to have large amounts of confidence and 2nd in the Royal Hunt Cup won’t (hopefully, at least) be good enough to figure here.

    I’m sure I could think of a couple other surprise candidates but I’m probably already clutching at straws. Le Brivido, if he turns up, will be extremely hard to beat on current evidence. 7/1 could be the best ante-post value I’ve seen for years.

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    It’s a little early to be writing off Le Brivido as not good enough.

    He just hasn’t had the chance to prove it one way or the other yet.

    He won his first race at 2YO well enough and then on his 3YO debut he took a while to pick up over the 6F trip but ultimately won it well.

    It was a step up to a mile next time and straight to Group 1 company, yet it was only a rattling finish from Brametot that saw him, rather than Le Brivido, prevail by a short head. Rivet was three lengths back in 3rd and it was 6 lengths further back to the 4th After that run, I felt Le Brivido was a shoo-in dropped to 7F and Group 3 for the Jersey Stakes.

    Although not winning the Jersey Stakes by far, Le Brivido won easily and cheekily, always just doing enough. He had been due to contest Group 1 company again but a setback prevented that and they decided not to risk him in the Moulin later on.

    A short-head away from being unbeaten and a Group 1 winner, he’s only had 4 runs and his OR of 120 was only 3 lbs less than Churchill, who won Two Guineas’.

    This is the worst looking Queen Anne I have seen for ages. I hope for the race’s sake that something decent wins this. I reckon a Lincoln winner proving good enough would be a bad blow for the quality of the contest.

    Once I know that Le Brivido has a definite target and is likely to keep the engagement, I’ll be in again, like Flint, at 7/1 to add to the 12/1.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    Beat The Bank was always spoken about as a horse for this year. I think had he not run in the QE2 his reputation would be a lot bigger.

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    Could the yanks send anything over for this? Or the Japanese even (unlikely I know)? Because this looks to be, even at this stage, one of the worst group 1s at Royal Ascot I’ve ever seen.

    Absolutely awful field for a group 1 race going by the betting markets.

    I’ll be backing something do well from abroad at this rate.

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    Of Beat The Bank’s opponents in the three races he won coming into the Group 1 he failed badly in, 56 subsequent runs have come.

    Out of those 56 runs we have 4 wins.

    D’Bai won two handicaps.

    Solomon’s Bay won a class 3 conditions race by a neck from Blue De Vega, a serial failure, most recently down the field in the Cammidge and pumped again at Musselburgh the following week, tried at 5F.

    Jallota won a Redcar Listed race.

    That’s your lot I’m afraid. Of the 56 runs, 40 were unplaced efforts.

    Not what I would be looking for.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #1349014
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    Looking at the market firms have Winter and Barney Roy quoted but I thought they went to study at the end of last season and on godolphin website states that Benbatl will go Prince of Wales

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    Americans chance would’ve been World Approval but he got beat last month I believe so can’t see that being an option now.

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    Apologies silent assassins, there I was looking for the late quote button, may it rest in peace.

    If that is true, then I think it is Godolphin’s first major blunder of the season. Although the more exposed of the two, I would make Benbatl clear favourite against Le Brivido in this. He appears to have improved no end for the extra year under his belt, even physically there seems to be far more substance to him.

    Although he’s been racing over 9f this season, the drop down to 8 surely wouldn’t be much of an inconvenience. I couldn’t see him beating Cracksman in a month of Sundays however, unless perhaps the Frankel colt is slightly vulnerable on very fast ground?

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    No probs Voleur (“Now he is a G1 winner and it is great to see how Benbatl has kept improving all of the time. “We might take him tack to Royal Ascot for the Prince of Wales’s Stakes (G1, 1m 2f, June 20) and that could be his next target, but we will give him a break now and an easy time.”0 Just noticed the quotes for Winter and Barney Roy were for the Prince of Wales and not the Queen Anne

    #1349049
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    slightly off topic, I see (according to France Galop site) Le Brivido has an entry in The Lockinge

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    Le Brivido is a narrow favourite for the Lockinge. As low as 4/1 but there is some 6/1 available.

    That would seem a tougher, but more suitable, starting point than the lake at Saint-Cloud.

    I reckon Cambridge might have pipped Stormy Antarctic in that one.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

    #1349170
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    The Abernant is now being muted as his return target

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    Le Brivido is in the Abernant today and has been very well backed. 7/2 into 15/8 would seem to indicate confidence.

    Rather worryingly for the Queen Anne race, connections have said that they are not worried by the step down from 7F to 6F and would actually be more worried about going up to a mile again.

    Not exactly what I wanted to hear.

    Interesting to see today’s race and ponder if he’s a sprinter after all. I think he’ll meet less testing horses in the mile division myself. I wouldn’t want to be tackling Battaash and Harry Angel for instance.

    Thanks for the good crack. Time for me to move on. Be lucky.

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    i thought it was very strange that they commented that. To be honest, from the times i’ve seen him race i thought a mile would be right up his street. Fabre obviously knows better, but it certainly will be interesting to see if they stay over sprint trips.

    I had Spirit of Valor down as an interesting one when reverting back to sprint trips this year. Obriens not winning of late so i wouldnt choose him for today.

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    #1351093
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    fingers crossed(slightly outpaced three out) he gets up in the last strides, then its onwards to the Lockinge followed by the Queen Anne

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