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    cleeve hill boy
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    Sanglote Pierse’s Prospects

    Eoin Griffin is unconcerned about pitching Sanglote in the Pierse Hurdle, one of the biggest handicap hurdles of the winter, at Leopardstown on Sunday.The six-year-old is tackling this valuable contest after opening his account over jumps in a maiden hurdle at Limerick recently.Wearing blinkers for the first time, Sanglote landed an 18-runner event by two lengths under top Flat jockey Seamie Heffernan.
    "He won nicely at Christmas and even though it was his maiden hurdle win, he has a lot of experience behind him," said the County Kilkenny trainer."He had a wind operation after his run in Listowel in September and it seems to have worked a treat with him."We’ll have the blinkers on him again and he has a nice weight and hopefully he can run a respectable race."I’m not sure yet if Seamie’s going to ride him again, but I’d be hopeful he will."It looks the top one (Newmill) is going to stay in so my horse will be at the right end of the handicap."
    Sanglote is generally available at 20-1 for the Pierse.

    #202245
    cleeve hill boy
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    Richard Fahey trains the only British representative in Sunday’s Pierse Hurdle at Leopardstown in Bolodenka and admits his charge faces a tough task."It’s a competitive handicap, it always is," said Fahey."The owner is from Ireland and he was quite keen to enter him.
    "At the moment we are out of the handicap but I’ve spoken to a trainer (who said) he might not run and if he came out, we’d only need another three to get a run and I might send him.
    "The owner is quite keen and it’s a handicap hurdle we should be competitive in. We’re in there off 107 and we race off 115 over here because of the discrepancy between the English and Irish Handicappers.
    "Generally the Irish man drops you 6lb, he has only dropped us 4lb as he was 111 at entry stage but we have gone up 4lb since so we are quite well-in as the weights go," he told At The Races.

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    I think Siege Of Ennis could go well in this. He’s not one to trust at a short price but he seems to like Leopardstown and ran well in the Fred Winter last year. He travels and jumps well and I can see him coming from off the pace to get involved. It will be interesting to see who rides him.

    According to the owners, Barry Geraghty wants to ride him if he’s available. He’s a thief though as his record of one win and eight places from 28 shows. Watch the video of his last run at Leopardstown- he’s an expert at getting outpaced then running on through beaten horses to make you think he’ll win next day- good chance of a place, but you can back him to win with me.

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    If Newmill stays in, I’d give Psycho a decent chance off 10 10. Having seen him at Leopardstown and Cheltenham last year I would not be surprised if this horse could be on the fringe of Champion Hurdle class at best.

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    Would have to be a very long fringe. He was thought to be a good thing last seaon in the county hurdle of 10st12lbs and although running on well was run outofit by a 50/1 shot.

    That race was over a longer trip than this and that worrys me a bit but you would have to think he’s a better horse than his stable companion. He deserves to be favourite on his best form and that’s the gamble with him….will he be?

    I couldn’t fancy Sanglote I seem to remember his trainer tellng he press he fancied another horse last year or the year before……he probably fancies evrything he runs.

    Why Alpine Eagle 8/1 in places is so short beats the hell out of me. Wouldn’t be JP’s money that’s for sure.

    Imperial Hills must surely go close the yard is doing so well it’s hard to oppose anything he runs in a decent race

    He would be my idea of a good EW bet in a very tough race to predict the winner of.

    But don’t listen to me as the last winner I had of this race was Fredcoteri (Fred Colin Terry) and that’s only because Terry, one of the owners, was my friends accountant told us to back it.

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    Would have to be a very long fringe. He was thought to be a good thing last seaon in the county hurdle of 10st12lbs and although running on well was run outofit by a 50/1 shot.

    That race was over a longer trip than this and that worrys me a bit but you would have to think he’s a better horse than his stable companion. He deserves to be favourite on his best form and that’s the gamble with him….will he be?

    I couldn’t fancy Sanglote I seem to remember his trainer tellng he press he fancied another horse last year or the year before……he probably fancies evrything he runs.

    Why Alpine Eagle 8/1 in places is so short beats the hell out of me. Wouldn’t be JP’s money that’s for sure.

    Imperial Hills must surely go close the yard is doing so well it’s hard to oppose anything he runs in a decent race

    He would be my idea of a good EW bet in a very tough race to predict the winner of.

    But don’t listen to me as the last winner I had of this race was Fredcoteri (Fred Colin Terry) and that’s only because Terry, one of the owners, was my friends accountant told us to back it.

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    this years race is of a far lower standard than last years taking that into account silver jaro comes into the mix even though 12lbs higher than last years ground conditions will be in his favour and a run up to his mark will have him bang there note kirbybrougelantern still in to keep weights low.
    another to consider is sesenta if you can forgive him his last run at faryhouse on terrible ground his improvement as a hurdler surely has not come to an end he won very well at listowel in the big 4year old handicap hurdle there, a race which has thrown up horses that run well in this event he has the right profile of an improving novice to go very well

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    this years race is of a far lower standard than last years taking that into account silver jaro comes into the mix even though 12lbs higher than last years ground conditions will be in his favour and a run up to his mark will have him bang there note kirbybrougelantern still in to keep weights low.
    another to consider is sesenta if you can forgive him his last run at faryhouse on terrible ground his improvement as a hurdler surely has not come to an end he won very well at listowel in the big 4year old handicap hurdle there, a race which has thrown up horses that run well in this event he has the right profile of an improving novice to go very well

    Hi Robbiewp,

    SJ would carry 11-5 if I am not mistaken if Newmill drops out and Kirby is top weight, that is 16lb more than last years race. Whilst I do believe he has more quality and perhaps should be rated higher than Kirby, I think his optimum run will be left until Cheltenham for another crack at the County.

    Sesenta, she would probably need softer ground i think, I think if i will have a bet on this race it would be on Carthalwan, currently priced at 20s, should be a good each way bet, ran well at Leopardstown last day and would have a stone pull in the weights with Imperial Hills.

    JohnJ

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    I had my other main bet today on Imperial Hills at 10-1. I’ve had a small saver on Fen Game at 14-1 and find it hard to see any other typical Pierse winners lurking- if any outside the front 3 win they’ll be unusual from a trends perspective.

    #202747
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    Welcome Robbie! A stone betterin and still 20/1 JJ? would have thought they would be dabbling by now?

    25 quid ew on mine and 5 ew on yours…one of us gotta be right :lol:

    Should be a cracking race to watch.

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    With Newmill in, and Sky Hall out, it would have to be Psycho for me, barring significant rainfall.
    Should have won the County Hurdle last season, and his next run probably came too soon. His debut this season was adequate, as a pipe-opener for this. Will save on his stablemate, Robin Du Bois.

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    Can anyone tell me what the weather’s like in Dublin please?

    #203173
    cleeve hill boy
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    Hi zebra,we had a bit of rain overnight following a dry week. Very windy here today,its blowing a gale

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    Zebra
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    Thanks Cleeve

    #203180
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    Theres a big tip going around here for Psycho, was out last night and half the town seemed to be on him.

    Think Fen Game will be involved in the finish of this but at the minute hes a bit shorter than I’d care to back e/w. The Mcmanus horse Alpine Eagle has seen his fair share of support this week and looks a likely enough candidate.

    As everything stands I’m looking at

    Alpine Eagle 12-1
    Vital Plot 25-1 and
    Sanglote 25-1

    Looks a hot race.

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    Deutschland looks interesting.

    Seems to be well handicapped over hurdles.

    Has fallen the last 2 times it has run over fences, however, back over hurdles should help the horse.

    12/1 at the moment too, Ruby taking the ride, seems an interesting one in the race.

    #203196
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    He isn’t what I would call fabulously handicapped off 130, but I’ve had a little bit each-way about Vital Plot. The formline with Hurricane Fly’s from Fairyhouse could turn out to be pretty handy.

    This is not a race I go too crazy in these days – I used to better when it was The Ladbroke, for some reason.

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