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  • #1240
    Anonymous
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    As discussion as been pretty thin this week, I thought the Licoln maybe something to get our teeth into earlyish.<br>For me, the race revolves around Gentleman’s Deal, and whether he can replicate his Winter Derby run in these different circumstances.<br>From a handicapping perspective, I would estimate he will get a mark of around 115, from 108, for his last 2 victories, which means he could run here off approx 22lbs below his new AW mark. He hasn’t proved to be as good on turf so far, buth neither has he proved to be 22lbs worse.<br>His trainer states that he needs good ground, and the portents are that he may well get it. The Newcastle ground has improved  considerably since last weekend, and with the sun blazing down outside, and little rain forecast, it should certainly be bordering on good ground overall by Saturday.<br> Clicked wrong button, continued below.

    (Edited by reet hard at 2:57 pm on Mar. 28, 2007)

    #48808
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    He has also never won on a straight course, but his Newmarket 4th, on the wrong ground, suggests it shouldn’t be a problem.<br>Of the others, it is unlikely to be soft enough for Blythe Knight to repeat last year’s win, Rio Riva finished a head in front of GD on gorund that favoured RR, and also has a fitness disadvantage. Zero tolerance needs softer to show his best, My Paris usually needs a run ot two to hit form, and the rest surely have too much to find.<br>At a general 8/1, Gentleman’s Deal looks a good bet imo, and will surely go of much shorter if he makes it to the line-up.

    #48810
    Black Sam Bellamy
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    Is Gentleman’s Deal nearly as affective on grass as he is on sand though ? This has yet to be confirmed.

    #48814
    Mounty
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    Gentleman’s Deal won on a straight track for Ed Dunlop, over 7f at Chepstow, though he was a 1-3 shot.

    #48817
    Irish Stamp
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    Crooked Throw – take the winner out of last weeks Irish Lincoln and he’d have won it, has a run in his favour this year and was well fancied last week :)

    #48818
    Anonymous
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    Quote: from Black Sam Bellamy on 4:17 pm on Mar. 28, 2007[br]Is Gentleman’s Deal nearly as affective on grass as he is on sand though ? This has yet to be confirmed.<br>

    This time last week it was "Will he act around Lingfield?".<br>He doesn’t have to be as effective, anything within a stone will do.

    #48819
    davidjohnson
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    He had his chances on turf last year, but he has shown even better form on sand this winter than he did last winter. I’m with Reet on this one, I don’t mind paying to find out if he just isn’t so effective on turf at 7/1.

    #48820
    Gareth Flynn
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    I’m coming around to the same opinion. There’s no reason why he shouldn’t be effective enough on turf, it’s not like he’s got a dirt pedigree or anything.

    #48821
    doyley
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    Hello,

    I thought ORCHARD SUPREME ran a reasonable race against G.D. on Saturday. Probably 1m 2f a tad too far for it, and got blocked once. <br>Is he in the Lincoln ??

    He is running today at Lingfield, this could be some sort of indicator to G/Deal’s chances on Saturday.

    Over the last few years’ AW form has translated well in the Lincoln, whether it a fitness reason, I ain’t sure. But the trend now is that AW form should be take very seriously in the Lincoln, and possibly used as a swaying factor in coming up with your selection. :)

    regards,

    doyley

    #48822
    empty walletempty wallet
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    Mmm

    Seems to be some missed Cruise ship, jumping on tugboat with GD here  imo

    <br>better punting opportunities to be found at Dubai and elsewhere  than this years Lincoln lottery

    <br>All the best to those playing

    <br>

    (Edited by empty wallet at 3:37 pm on Mar. 29, 2007)

    #48823
    dandan
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    I think Gentleman’s Deal will be well beaten.

    #48824
    davidjohnson
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    I’ve come full circle on the race. Having watched the videos, he’s had every chance from this sort of mark on various occasions. I’ve laid him for a place at just shy of 2.5.

    #48825
    Gareth Flynn
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    Easterby reckons he feels the ground a bit on turf, that his joints stand up better on the more cushioned Poly.

    #48826
    davidbrady
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    Crooked Throw looks massively overpriced IMO.

    #48827
    Anonymous
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    It might be worth pointing out that Gentleman’s Deal started off this season’s glorious AW campaign off much the same mark as he was on the flat. Who can say he won’t show the same improvement?<br>His trainer says in this morning’s RP, " What this horse has achieved already has been a fairytale, and there might be more to come".<br>Oppose him at your peril.:biggrin:

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