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Yeah, I’ve got a Twitter account, I only use it to follow a couple of guys trading footy, other than that it does nothing for me….. Facebook I just do NOT like, far too intrusive for my liking, so rather than protecting what I say or do, I find it easier not to be part of Facebook in the first place…..
I don’t think that it’s anything to do with the "social media" crap mate, I think that it’s younger ones that are scared of the oldies, they probably think that we know more than them and will take the pee if they say summat stupid…. we know that’s not the case because we are quite kind to Bill and he’s got a head start on stupid….
The guys really need to know that nobody’s going to take the weewee and that from supposedly simple comments or observations, lots of profitable avenues may be opened….. you only have to look at some of the really easy peasy stuff like Fineform Ratings, nothing could be simpler, a simple format that just wanted a few tweaks here and there to make that work better….. I just think that we need to show that we’re fallible also, so bring on the losers too, this is the hardest way of making money, but it can be done….. I’ve probably written all this in my previous life on here, but buggered if I’m gonna search for it, so I’ll take a chance with upsetting Billy, elc, Nathan, et al, I’ll try and put something down as I see it….. if it bores you, don’t frigging read it…..
MrE
Ssssshhhhhhhhh…… don’t wake Bill up, he needs his sleep after he’s taken the time to write two sentences…… sleep well honey chile…. there, there, did that nasty Matron wake you with that bed bath…..
MrE
These are my opinions only, anybody can feel free to think differently….. frankly, I don’t give a tinkers cuss because I’m making money, but you can come along for the ride if you wish….
There is NO easy way to make money gambling, most punters will LOSE….. it may take weeks, months or even years, but the majority of punters will lose, end of story….. you have to ask yourself why this happens, the reason is simple…. you don’t have enough time to commit to all the work that winning entails, so what’s the answer??….. work together….
I have 6 systems/methods in my portfolio, these I have worked at and accumulated over the years…. I have about 800 systems on my P/C and 80% of them are total rubbish, but the remaining 20% have a reasonable "something" going for them….. from those I have burned the midnight oil and tampered and tweaked until I ended up with the 6 methods that I required for my Portfolio, each of these 6 give me a profitable return over every 12 month period….. each of these systems is based on logic, it’s not a pin stickers guide, it’s really gotta be logical in it’s approach…..
The Golden Goose system that your playing with at present is what I mean by a logical approach…. a 10 horse race, a handicap where the horses are supposedly weighted to finish in a line, the first 4 in the betting from the most respected racing paper out there, only top class races where the form is straighter than the lower class crap, and then you’ve got value…. from this you can vary what betting medium that grabs your fancy…. laying your lowest price (profitable but too risky for me), you can lift that lower acceptable price from 3.50 up to 4.50 and then bet or dutch ALL 4….. you can dutch or bet the 3 as stated or even cut it down to two….. there’s more ways of making a profit from just this sole system, I’ve given 7 ideas above…… yes, I’ve checked ’em all and chosen the bets that I like, but that doesn’t mean that the other methods are poo, it just means that I choose my way because I’m a bit of a nutcase when it comes to protecting my bank….. you guys need to either follow this approach or look at the other avenues, it’s not down to me, I’m happy with what I’ve got….. and this is only one system from the 6 that I use…..
Another posting to follow…..
MrE
My last posting on the subject cos I’m getting tired of listening to my own voice……
Punters lose money because they have no discipline, there are an awful lot who have read and been fed all the bullshit about how different parties make huge profits month after month, it’s all lies, they’re after your money….. one of the best systems out there has been given the accolade of being the best system ever….. triple bollox….. it requires you to bet the favs in each race with retrieval staking up to a maximum risk of 30pts a day, but you have to SAW at 1pt…. 1 losing day will take you 30 days to recoup…. utter madness….. there is not easy money, there is winning and losing, discipline will help you keep the losses down….. that’s where "systematic betting" comes into it’s own, every stake, every bet, is pre planned to make you stick to the path……
If you can find a method that will earn you 5pts a month from a 20% ROI, don’t kick it out cos you think 5pts a month aint worth your spit, 5pts from a 20% ROI is a veritable goldmine…. I’ve got 6 methods that give me 5pts a month, that doesn’t take a genius to work out that I’m clocking 30pts a month, now that’s what 5pts does….. lots of punters will discard betting every single day just to win £50 a month, to them it just aint worth it, well more fool them, they deserve to be in the 98% of losing punters…..
The GG has had a good start so far and long may it continue, but I’m a realist and I know that it can’t continue, losers must come along sometime, so prepare for that….. I think that I said at the outset, that I would get between 5pts and 10pts a month when averaged out over a year, I stand by that, but there was a couple of losing months last year and you should prepare for that eventuality…… and to be fair, even with those two losing months, I made a LOT more than 5pts a month….. so discipline guys, just discipline…… enough now, finished…..
MrE
Crickey
Windy
you are making a fine racket this afternoon.
Lets have a look at a couple of things you have said "bring on the losers" well we did not have long to wait today, did we now
Allow me to digress a mo’.
MrE
you have an expected strike rate from "Goose Racing" and with 2 losing races on the one day do you think there could be an argument in favour of upping the anti for the next race? You target a £10 return (I think
) and so increase the target to £15/20, whatever.The lost generation, ha! They may have gone to twitter or facebook or even to hell, I have not a clue but I do care because without new blood the sport will die.
Frightened of us oldies, now
MrE
you really are out of touch with the the young ones – they fear nobody and love the "net" and it’s anonymity so I really do not think so.
CrustyPatch
started a thread (Horse Racing) about Tanya Stevenson which has developed into a love/hate thing regarding CH4 and it’s progs. What poor old
CrustyPatch
is losing sight of is the likes of Tanya can connect with younger viewers and then perhaps this is why "RACING FOR CHANGE" should be embraced and may stop them defecting to Poker etc.
I applaud what you are trying to do here and perhaps one or two young ones (is that under 50?) may put forward an idea or two or offer a twist on an old one but I fear you are going to end with a headache by banging your head against the wall.
LURKERS, if that is what they are may be taking and not giving in return or as many fear moving on and selling systems via ebay etc. This fear I doubt can or will be overcome.
I suggest a closed area (chat room thingy) could possibly be used as a "think tank" where admission is only allowed with a reasonable contribution/system/idea to then be worked on as you so desire with an open board.
Billy's Outback Shack
Your right Bill, I just had to open my big mouth today didn’t I….. two losers…. that’ll teach me to keep my gob shut…. I think that the updating tonight may be a tad painful…..
Givers and Takers!!!…. I hope it hasn’t come to that, ideas of beating the book must be a joint enterprise to assist each other, but I’m afraid that you could be correct with the ebay thing, I would hate to think of 40 years of my life squandered away on ebay by someone who isn’t deserving of the income gained thereof….. your right mate, it’s a sign of the times…. and that’s a shame…. we’ve all become mercenary in our betting….. mmmmm…. time to give this second thoughts perhaps, we’ll see…..
MrE
MrE
, I have just sent you a p.m.
Don’t be too down I absolutely know why the system failed this afternoon……….
Are you ready for this, are you?
I took a punt
and went for it, my test was to get my bets on before you posted.
Now are you ready for this?
I got it right
, well except for the results and so am not too unhappy, something about "one step forward and two back".
There is always another day.
Billy's Outback Shack
Not been around for a few months now
This is a cracking thread gents MrE belting read laughted my head off over a bottle of wine excellent stuff keep up the good work.
Updates for DAY 5…. A total wipe out today, that made my walnut shrink a bit…..
Dutch the Trio…. Balance now at (-£0.02)….
L/S for the Trio…. Balance now at +£30.00….Dutch the Duo…. Balance now at +£21.79….
L/S for the Duo…. Balance now at +£110.00….I’m not around at all tomorrow, hopefully I’ll be free for Saturday…. thanks Manch….
MrE
An interesting situation is occurring today and perhaps MrE you will offer some guidance.
Worcester 4.20 C3 handicap over 2 miles but only 5 runners.
With so few runners the available prices will also be somewhat reduced but having just looked at betfair they are not too bad and close to 3.5 cut off.
LORD JAY JAY 3.25
ZORRO DE LA VEGA 4.1
SUNDAY CITY 5.8
PLAYING WITH FIRE 5.9Do you think because of the reduced field Sunday City & Playing with Fire should be played or simply swerve the race.
If Swerved: –
Haydock 4.20 C4 Handicap 1m 6f with 8 runners – could this race become todays choice or because there is a C3 albeit unplayable we take up Tiddlewinks for the remainder of the day.
Billy's Outback Shack
I have looked at the 4.10 Chester C2 Hcp 1m 2f 10 declared.
I have scratched the Fav Mashaaref X
SWIFT ALHAATH/LAS VERGLAS STAR/WEAPON OF CHOICE
All look to be up for the "Goose Chase" – fingers crossed.
Billy's Outback Shack
Hi Bill….. I didn’t play at all yesterday, so it’s difficult to make any assessment….. but I did notice that you were going in too early in the day which makes it hard on account of non runners that throw enormous spanners into the works….. I dont normally have a look until about 1.00pm as stated a few times before, this is only because of the non runner thing, after withdrawals are made, usually by 11.30am ish, I like to give the markets time to reform because all earlier prices get shot to pieces…. I notice that you didn’t get the winner in your proposed race yesterday, but I wonder if that late n/runner would have brought the eventual winner into the reckoning, if it did, then you would have shot yourself in the foot….
MrE
As above Bill, guilty of going in too early again….. Las Verglas Star is a non runner, therefore Belle Royale comes into the mix…..
MrE
The races that we should be looking at today are….
4.10 Chester….
4.25 Newmarket….
4.45 Chester….
5.35 Newmarket…..ALL races are qualifying races providing everything else falls into our criteria….. the 5.35 will be discarded because of price, but the rest stand……
MrE
As above Bill, guilty of going in too early again….. Las Verglas Star is a non runner, therefore Belle Royale comes into the mix…..
MrE
First of of – Well Done with Belle Royale
Secondly, I did not think I was that ealy (between 12.30 & 1.00) but lets say "Lesson Learned"
Third the 5.35 Newmarket being a very small field indeed and is there a minimum number of runners or if the prices stack up, so be it!
I did say at the start of this thread I felt this was not a system for me (anything requiring the need for serious thought is always a problem
) but I am going to hang on in there until I have clawed back some of the losses. Billy's Outback Shack
Bill….. you shouldn’t be losing my friend, if you are, somethings drastically wrong….. you should have had winners with Belle Royale @ 7.40 and Greensward @ 9.00….. in the 4.25 we deleted the winner (Pimpernel), that was annoying…. again….. but still a very profitable day….. I’m not going to update the Balances anymore cos I’m getting bored and I’m just putting my boots on ready to leave again, but for the records, the bets today were as follows….
4.10 Chest… Mashaaref…. 4.10…. (Deleted)….
Swift Alhaarth…. 5.30….
Weapon of Choice…. 7.60….
Belle Royale…. 7.40…. WINNER….4.25 Newm… Pimpernel…. 4.40…. (Deleted)…. WINNER….
Responsive…. 9.20….
Nimiety…. 6.40….
Nemushka…. 6.20….4.45 Chest… Baby Strange…. 5.90….
Kyllachy Star…. 5.80…. (Deleted)….
One Scoop or Two…. 6.80….
Greensward…. 9.00…. WINNER….A handsome profit today whichever method you used…..
MrE
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