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There have also been stories of people filling up spare containers with petrol – I thought this was illegal. I wonder how many petrol-in-garage fires the fire service will have to deal with in the next few days?
As you say, Daylight, it makes you wonder how people would cope with an actual crisis as opposed to a pretend one.
It certainly is illegal to have more than one gallon in the boot of your car. I think it is illegal for a retailer to let you fill more than one can, and you certainly cannot take it into the shop area.<br>I too hit a wall of queuing morons in their 4x4s on Tues. I couldn’t figure it out until I reached the point where I could see the queue ending at the petrol station. Scampering to fill my car with exorbitantly priced fuel had not even crossed my mind. I have made an effort to not use the car for the past few days, i’d rather cycle to town as opposed to wasting petrol. <br>I’d love to see these protestors bring the country to a halt again. However, Tony Blair introduced a form of martial law the last time it happenned in 2000. Now, protest is only acceptable if it has no effect. I think they call that ‘fascism’.
A new piece of legislation:
The Urban Off Road Vehicle Ownership Act 2005
(selected extracts)
[/i]with the exception of the aforementioned categories shall be prohibited from owning and driving such vehicles unless said owner is able to demonstrate to a satisfactory degree good cause. Categories of owners who will automatically be deemed not to have demonstrated good cause and will be proscribed by the adjudicating powers shall include:
a. Top Gear presenters
b. Motoring journalists
c.What is everybodys problem with 4X4s.
My own pick-up that I use for work is a 4X4, and it probably dishes out less crap than the V6 Ford Mondeo that nearly pushed me into a bus stop today.
Mrs Lolly drives a Honda CRV. It looks like a 4X4 cos it has the spare tyre hanging of the rear door, but its front wheel drive and measures less than the afore mentioned Mondeo.
Mrs Lolly also drives the kids to school. Its prevents "Happy slapping thugs" from bashing the kids up.
If we were in the middle of the 2nd world war, then I am sure the streets would be safe enough for my kids to walk the 2 miles to school.
But our society is more dangerous than back in the days when you could hear a bomb falling.
Clarkson for P.M.
He speaks the truth.
BTW.
Unleaded at Morrisons in Kingsbury….. 94.5
Unleaded at Esso in Bushey…………….90.5
<br> This theory might make sense.
Lolly’s,
You and Mrs Lolly didn’t both fill up a full tank each did you on Sunday or Monday by any chance?
Quote: from lollys mate on 7:05 pm on Sep. 15, 2005[br] BTW.
Unleaded at Morrisons in Kingsbury….. 94.5
Unleaded at Esso in Bushey…………….90.5
<br> This theory might make sense.<br>
You are not measuring like with like, mate of lolly. I will wager that the Esso station you speak of, has a rather large supermarket petrol station within 3km of it that charges 89.5ish. The Morrisons on the other hand probably has a monopoly in the area. That is the nature of the oil business. Charge as much as you can get away with.
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I never look at the price, just fill up the Tank. But I’m sure it’s gone well over ten bob a gallon.
No point in looking at the price – the fuel is required if the car is to move.
I’ll just fill up once the tank gets below ¼ full (the only exception is I won’t fill up at a motorway service area because their prices do extract the urine, I would rather come off the motorway and find a local filling station)
Luckily because of lockdown I’m only having to fill up every three months, whereas when I was going racing most days I was getting through two to three tanks a week.
I agree, Paul.
Fuel prices are what they are generally with the notable exception you allude to.
I noticed £1.50p a litre at a motorway service station coming back from Devon last night.
Not quite daylight robbery – but only because it was starting to get quite dark by then.
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It's the "Millwall FC" of Point broadcasts: "No One Likes Us - We Don't Care"Price of petrol right now is extremely low. Compared to the price it will be once 50% of Britain’s cars are electric and once they try and “persuade” us to buy an electric car. May even be difficult to find a petrol station.
Value Is EverythingI think widespread electric car use is a long, long way off. Until they can compete with ICE cars i.e. 500 miles on a charge and a recharge that can be completed in a 5 to 10 minute stop people won’t switch. That’s before we get on to how much they cost to buy.
I think they are talking about stopping sales in 2030. We’ll need a full charging infrastructure to do that and few car parks that I’ve seen have more than a token couple of chargers.
Petrol is bloody expensive but still beats public transport hands down unless you live in London. My car gets me where I want to go, when I want to be there. Trains and buses don’t and, especially in the case of trains, are more expensive.
Good grief, I’m finding myself agreeing with Richard yet again
We’re lucky here in Milton Keynes as, since April, bus routes have been slashed, which sounds bad but they’ve been replaced by an on-demand service. Operated by mini-buses you book a trip and it will pick you up at a convenient spot within 200 yards of where you are starting and take you to within 200 yards of your destination anywhere within MK. Flat rate of £3.50 peak and £2.50 off-peak, free is you have a senior bus pass. Apparently very popular – and green, all the mini-buses are electric – and you’re not tied to fixed routes.
Another advantage here is we have good rail links – only 35 mins to London and quicker and cheaper than driving to London, when you consider congestion and emission charges. The only downside is services after 22:00 are not good, prone to cancellation and no fast services so a 50 minute to 1 hr 10 minute journey, so for late night trips you need patience.
I recall I once did a racing trip to Scotland covering Hamilton and Perth and decided to use public transport. I flew up to Glasgow and getting to Hamilton was easy by train, as was getting from Glasgow to Perth by train.
However getting home was interesting as I decided to try National Express as it had a route from Perth to Milton Keynes via Glasgow – I think the total journey time was around 11 hours and it was 11 hours of my life I’ll never get back again – yes, it was relatively cheap but a perfect illustration of getting what you pay for.
I agree it’s going to be some time before electric cars are widespread. But once it does get past the 50% figure there will be many petrol stations going over to electric charging. It’s the only way I can see there’ll be enough areas for that “full charging infrastructure” Ian.
Value Is EverythingI was speaking to one of the staff at my local Shell garage last week; they said they have plans to get rid of one row of petrol/diesel pumps to replaced with charging points.
They just have one single charging unit at present that is always in use.
Good grief, I’m finding myself agreeing with Richard yet again
There was a first time? I do only talk s*** about 95% of the time
Have to say that MK idea sounds pretty good, probably ideal for mid-sized towns/cities like that.
Electric ‘petrol’ stations are the obvious answer but only if a charge can be done in the time it takes to fill up now or else they won’t have the capacity (a sort of physics double entendre for you there). I’ve no idea how quick a charge could be in theory but they usually find an answer. Either that or I guess you could have interchangable batteries so you swap your dead battery for a charged one and plug it in ready for the next car to come along.
The other vital function of the petrol station is of course to provide sustenance at 2am for those who have been enjoying Moroccan Woodbines so I hope somebody has thought of them in all of this.
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