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I know My Tent Or YOurs gave him a sound beating there but would it put you off backing Cotton Mill?
25/1 seems massive since he isnt keen on heavy ground (maybe the shorter 2m helped him cope), so with better ground, being off that long and the hill also a help I can see him running a massive race.
You would have to doubt whether he could reverse the form but in my opinion he enhanced his prospects of running a place. Obviously, he does need the ground to dry but on the plus side he did enough last year to show he acts on the track. Supreme or Champion Hurdle we don’t know how well or otherwise My Tent Or Yours will handle Cheltenham.
Grandouet misses the Kingwell and heads straight to the CH.
Ground concerns rather than the ‘injury’ apparently.
I was a lot happier with my AP bet a week ago
Lee
As someone who has his absolutes on him, just happy he is still a possible for the race. As long as he turns up, should at least place.
Grandouet misses the Kingwell and heads straight to the CH.
Ground concerns rather than the ‘injury’ apparently.
I was a lot happier with my AP bet a week ago
Lee
Me also Lee. Definite concern that he goes there not only with an interrupted preparation but lack of race fitness too
Grandouet has a good record fresh SYT, so I don’t see the lack of a run as a problem. However, it would concern me that he’s fragile and may get another slight injury, ruling him out of the big day.
Value Is EverythingI wish I shared your optimism Ginge but I see nothing in his profile to suggest he goes well fresh.
Yes, his form has been accetable but other than looking like the winner of a weak Eilte hurdle back in 2011 (in receipt of weight from Celestial Halo) he has never won first time out.
The ‘1’ at the beginning of last season being misleading as at came in the Champion 4yo at Punchestown in May.
As I said, it’s not bad – just not that good either.
Lee
I think it’s clutching at straws to think a horse can go there on the back of one run in December (when not 100% ready), having had an intrerrupted preparation and be able to run to his full potential.
He may yet win, which would be one hell of a training achievement and performance from the horse, but now I rate his chance 4th of thebig 4,which is a shame because I am sitting on a very nice payout if eithe The Fly or Grandouet win.Agree Shack, he was the big danger to The Fly for me but this preparation leaves me cold for his chances now.
Agree Shack, he was the big danger to The Fly for me but this preparation leaves me cold for his chances now.
Yes Pants, 26 days and counting ,slowly, however i’m sure there’ll be more twists and turns along the way before post time!
I wish I shared your optimism Ginge but I see nothing in his profile to suggest he goes well fresh.
Yes, his form has been accetable but other than looking like the winner of a weak Eilte hurdle back in 2011 (in receipt of weight from Celestial Halo) he has never won first time out.
The ‘1’ at the beginning of last season being misleading as at came in the Champion 4yo at Punchestown in May.
As I said, it’s not bad – just not that good either.
Lee
I don’t judge "running well fresh" on the Punchestown run at all Lee, as you say that was effectively the last run of his first season. Coming only exactly one month after his Aintree fall.
The Elite was one race when "fresh". Where after 6 months off didn’t just look like beating Celestial Halo, he looked like cruising to victory before falling 2 out.
It’s also imo far too simplistic judging a horse’s form solely on the number 1 finishing position. Grandouet’s 2 lengths second, giving Zarkander 4 lbs on reappearance this season (with 6 lengths back to an admittedly below par Rock On Ruby (levels)… was
at least
as good a form performance as anything he’s achieved previously… And that run came after a whole year off
.So imo Grandouet can with great confidence be said to be "fully effective fresh".
Value Is EverythingCan’t say I saw anything today that would enhance Zarkandar’s claims to win the Champion. Ok, he has won as a 1/3 chance should, but in all honesty, if Khyber Kim hadn’t landed on all four’s over the last two hurdles, it’s quite possible he could have beaten Zarkandar after 600 and however many days off the track. Clearly Zarkandar needs a sterner test or a quicker pace, but the fact Khyber Kim was going almost as well as him two from home, must say something.
This year’s race is becoming a bit of a conundrum, considering the doubts surrounding all the main protagonists…..
Was Rock On Ruby a fluke? Or is he that underrated?
Will Grandouet get there in one piece?
Is Hurricane Fly a small field Ireland bully and last year was an off day? Or is he the short price favourite he deserves to be?
Does Zarkandar need further, does he have the pace for this race?
Is Binocular the horse he was?
All things considered, if you take literal form through Khyber Kim, can Zarkandar beat an in form Binocular after Khyber Kim’s effort today after nearly two years off?
It’s a tragedy Darlan is not here, because he is starting to look like the good horse people were claiming, especially as now, Rock On Ruby is the one with the form in the book, against the good thing that is Hurricane Fly.It’s late, hope I don’t sound like I’m rambling!
Can’t say I saw anything today that would enhance Zarkandar’s claims to win the Champion. Ok, he has won as a 1/3 chance should, but in all honesty, if Khyber Kim hadn’t landed on all four’s over the last two hurdles, it’s quite possible he could have beaten Zarkandar after 600 and however many days off the track. Clearly Zarkandar needs a sterner test or a quicker pace, but the fact Khyber Kim was going almost as well as him two from home, must say something.
This year’s race is becoming a bit of a conundrum, considering the doubts surrounding all the main protagonists…..
Was Rock On Ruby a fluke? Or is he that underrated?
Will Grandouet get there in one piece?
Is Hurricane Fly a small field Ireland bully and last year was an off day? Or is he the short price favourite he deserves to be?
Does Zarkandar need further, does he have the pace for this race?
Is Binocular the horse he was?
All things considered, if you take literal form through Khyber Kim, can Zarkandar beat an in form Binocular after Khyber Kim’s effort today after nearly two years off?
It’s a tragedy Darlan is not here, because he is starting to look like the good horse people were claiming, especially as now, Rock On Ruby is the one with the form in the book, against the good thing that is Hurricane Fly.It’s late, hope I don’t sound like I’m rambling!
Valid questions Harvey, but have you got an opinion on the outcome?:-)
I backed Binocular some time ago, but the way events have turned out, at the prices, Rock On Ruby has done nothing wrong since becoming champion last March.
Zarkander won easy I thought, Jacob should of left the whip alone cause he didn’t need to use it.
Can never ever back Hurricane Fly at the price, would only get into him that price if the skies opened and it came a bog.
Will probably back Cotton Mill nice big price and will probably run well if given the chance.
Was Rock On Ruby a fluke? Or is he that underrated?
Will Grandouet get there in one piece? Is Hurricane Fly a small field Ireland bully and last year was an off day? Or is he the short price favourite he deserves to be?
Does Zarkandar need further, does he have the pace for this race?
Is Binocular the horse he was?
All things considered, if you take literal form through Khyber Kim, can Zarkandar beat an in form Binocular after Khyber Kim’s effort today after nearly two years off?
It’s a tragedy Darlan is not here, because he is starting to look like the good horse people were claiming, especially as now, Rock On Ruby is the one with the form in the book, against the good thing that is Hurricane Fly.It’s late, hope I don’t sound like I’m rambling!
Value Is EverythingIt looks as though connections prefer sticking to the novice route for My Tent Or Yours. But that doesn’t necessarily mean that will happen.
If Binocular is not showing much at home, then he could well be switched last minute. If Binocular is the only one to show up in the Champion and MTOY runs in the novice, then could be a tip in itself as to Binocular’s well being.
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