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- January 24, 2012 at 22:56 #388157
Boz i’m a huge fan of dynaste and agree he was a bit too handy last time could have slowed it down a little and got a better trip out of him.
He did still stretch them all and had bucks puffing a little. My massive worry is he will be one of tthe only ones who has the capability to really throw some sort of challenge down and then weaken to be beaten by weaker plodders.
I’ll be having a sneaky ew interest i suspect but am concerned he will slit his throat with either tactics or being second best but tiring and coming 4th or 5th.
See I just can’t see that happening after Ascot. He’s bound to be ridden with slightly more restraint in a much more competitive field, knowing full well that he can’t beat Big Buck’s. Definite e/w value.
January 24, 2012 at 23:18 #388158If they delay the final kick a little he should beat the rest I agree. I was all over him on his seasonal debut and love his hurdling, never puts a foot wrong. I’ll probably have a go on him.
January 25, 2012 at 09:18 #388171Sketti: If that’s your belief and you are worried about him fading or finding nothing I would advise you back him in the market without Big Bucks mate, that way you get the place money if he finishes 4th! Also should he finish 2nd you have a nice winner

You can get 10s with most firms
January 25, 2012 at 09:42 #388172I am pretty sure i have seen 12s on the wo big bucks market.
It means i miss out 33-1 if he wins. but bucks is a machine.
12-1 win if he comes second. i might actually go in with a heavier bet on the w/o market say 3/4pts ew say then anything up to 4th and i will get 3-1 on. Then i’ll follow it up with a smaller ew at 33-1 which would be 8-1 on the place and if something goes a miss with bucks then he could be in contention.
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8-1 on him finishing in top 3 place at 33s
or 3-1 to finish in top four with a 12-1 win if he comes second.Mix is the best way to play i think.
January 25, 2012 at 11:47 #388187You just couldn’t make it up. The Nicky Henderson stable, my god. Nothing’s been confirmed but Oscar Whisky now trading at 8.2/8.8 for the World Hurdle and 25/32 for the Champion Hurdle.
January 25, 2012 at 12:04 #388190Sketti, you may have seen it but there is none on oddschecker mate
January 25, 2012 at 12:36 #388192Dynaste looks like a non-runner to me as well.
January 25, 2012 at 13:02 #388195I’ll just holdfire then me thinks.
I am inclined just to avoid the race to be honest. I think he is one of the better horses but know he will give it his all going for the win and might get run out of it in which case i’ll be gutted.
Ok i may miss out on 10-1 second but not sure he will run like that and he tired in rapid circumstances, the cheltenham climb might just make it a whole lot worst. I am talking myself out of it.
I am also leaning away from the Ryanair. I want an interest and have a small ew on medermit but i genuinely think 8 horses could win.
Love Rubi Light, he jumps well and is classy, lot to like about his effort as a 6 year old last year. I am not as conceerned about the good ground as he ran well enough last year. I like noble prince but wish i had seen him more in similar distances this year to gauge progression. I am against all the second season chasers especially the brits who have all disappointed me including captain chris. i just could never have him for the Gold cup he was hammered by the two in front and can’t see him improving to be honest.
Rubi light and quito are the two who are least exposed and have formlines that suggest they might be the better two out of last year. Quito however has been alarmingly outpaced in slow races. i’d be inclined to wait for him to go for a slog, he will be a nice place potential in the gold cup though running through beaten ones.
Rubi light I’ll be on come the day i suspect in the ryanair, he has improved, if it was softer id smash into him on the day for sure. However they still might go for gold and i think it is worth holding fire.
Sorry for the waffling.
January 25, 2012 at 13:34 #388201The longer I look at the Ryanair the bigger my headache gets LOL
My main bet is Kauto Stone but have also backed Medermit EW and I will NOT support anything else even if both do not run
January 25, 2012 at 13:48 #388203I am against all the second season chasers especially the brits who have all disappointed me including captain chris. i just could never have him for the Gold cup he was hammered by the two in front and can’t see him improving to be honest.
Medermit won the Haldon Gold Cup, Captain Chris would’ve won it, Quantitiveeasing won the Boylesports, Finian’s Rainbow won the Desert Orchid…
As for Captain Chris not being able to improve, jesus christ, give him a chance. Interrupted preperation, first start against the big boys, first start over 3 miles, came alongside Long Run but his fitness gave way. He was 6/1 yesterday for the Argento, now 9/2.
January 25, 2012 at 16:27 #388222I mean not to cause offense only highlight my approach to certain horses I intend to avoid.
In response Medermit won the haldon against a largely second season chase field.
My interpretation of Captain Chris is he is the best british second season chaser. Decent don’t get me wrong just the best of a weak bunch though i.e. not a world beater. He does however have the scalp of most the others from the king george so should give a nice place effort, just can’t see him catching long run.
The boylesport was not a top class race by any means, just a handicap, the best performance was medermit and even though i am on him for smalls he is no doubt not top class. Look at the horses in that race they are not championship horses.
Finians hasn’t done anything wrong but he won’t win the qm and if they step him up it will be a desparation act to win a top race.
I wouldn’t back any these horses in their targets It is just my perception. I hope one of them proves me wrong – Medermit.
If the second season chasers are a group of stars then i stand to have a terrible festival. I am happy to bet they aren’t though.
No offence intended, good to have mixed opinions otherwise we’d all be backing the same horse.
January 25, 2012 at 16:29 #388223Ps if he wins the argento and shortens for the gold cup layout your bet and save your money.
January 25, 2012 at 16:36 #388224Well I certainly don’t think the others are that great from the Arkle but Captain Chris I really do think is a world beater. Won the Arkle just 13 months after his debut. Ridiculous how quickly he improved. I’m expecting to see a high class performance on Saturday with a lot of improvement to come for better ground and the spring.
January 25, 2012 at 17:36 #388228Yeah he also said that ‘only a miracle’ would stop Oscar Whisky from running in the World Hurdle.
I think it would at least place in both races but i want to see if it can win the World Hurdle. Nicky still has Grandouet and Binocular in the Champion.
It’s a superb horse with a high cruising speed and a turn of foot.
My concern is that a brilliant performance in the Welsh or an injury to Grandouet or Binocular will see them divert him to the Champion at the festival.
January 25, 2012 at 18:21 #388230MIKAEL D’HAUGUENET 16/1 and VOLDER LA VEDDETE 16/1 be my tips for this race.I just hope they go for it.
January 25, 2012 at 19:56 #388233Zarks, when did dynaste drift so heavily, i am inclined to chance a fiver anyhow.
January 25, 2012 at 21:44 #388250Well the money’s gone now but it was at 65, 21 points higher than the next price and it was for about £30 I think. That’s a fair chunk of money to put up on an outsider for the World Hurdle at this stage.
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