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    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Peacock is a fair price for this. Only Paddy have priced it up but thus far but at 6/1 you have an each way bet to nothing. His run behind Golden Horn at Newmarket is the best piece of form and I seriously believe he would have finished 2nd in the Dante. He’ll want quick ground but the course is ideal and he will have the champ on board which is what everyone wants expect Pethers Moon’s owner lol

    Time Test was eyecatching at Newbury and will fill the 2nd spot.

    good luck

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    Avatar photoCharlesOlney
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    Is it folly to suggest Disegno can turn around form with Peacock if he lines up?

    I was amused to see that Ryan Moore has ridden 5 of the top 7 in the betting to victory previously.

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    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    He’s beaten Peacock as a two year old and wasn’t far behind in the Fielden at Newmarket. I just think Peacock is a better horse from his two year old campaign, much stronger and still developing and learning, his legs were all over the place the last race and his sire Paco Boy was a late maturing sort to some extent and I see similarity’s between the two with that regard. Disegno had a setback at the end of last season and that could be a reason he is more lightly raced rather than design. I don’t think he’ll finish ahead of Peacock but You cant ever rule out a Stoute runner.
    I notice Richard Hughes failed to give Peacock a mention in his RP column and I think I have more faith and belief in the horse than himself and Hannon who know more about the game than I, so he’s probably crap anyway and there to give the Queen a run out…..

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    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Interesting that Moore is riding Disegno instead of Time Test to who he partnered at Newbury.
    Now he’s the Ballydoyle number 1 I wouldn’t have thought he was obliged to ride for Stoute although he is also on Cannock Chase instead of TGG in the Prince of Wales.?

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    Avatar photoThe Ante-Post King
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    Interesting that Moore is riding Disegno instead of Time Test to who he partnered at Newbury.
    Now he’s the Ballydoyle number 1 I wouldn’t have thought he was obliged to ride for Stoute although he is also on Cannock Chase instead of TGG in the Prince of Wales.?

    I like this Disegno Nath and have had a few wagers at 10/1 on him.I dont think there will be much between yours and mine but this ‘Time Test’ could be anything.One who you also saw at Newbury.I’d also give a mention for the Weld factor with Don Camillo 33/1 with Bet365 is generous.

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    Interesting that Moore is riding Disegno instead of Time Test to who he partnered at Newbury.
    Now he’s the Ballydoyle number 1 I wouldn’t have thought he was obliged to ride for Stoute although he is also on Cannock Chase instead of TGG in the Prince of Wales.?

    Think Moore has a second retainer with Stoute and an understanding he can choose between Coolmore and Stoute horses; Time Test is Charlton and TGG is Ryan so could not choose them.

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    I like this Disegno Nath and have had a few wagers at 10/1 on him.I dont think there will be much between yours and mine but this ‘Time Test’ could be anything.One who you also saw at Newbury.I’d also give a mention for the Weld factor with Don Camillo 33/1 with Bet365 is generous.

    Don Camillo is a good shout Gord, althogh not sure to be as effective on turf given USA breeding, if improvement is maintained at current rate could see him challenge. imo Best of those likely to be ridden prominently too, so if pace favours him could surprise. I make the Weld horse value at 33/1 too but just a saver for me along with Bocca Baciata – neither as good value as my main bets favourite Time Test and 20/1 Nafaqa though. With more runners and more likely to be a fast pace – latter could settle a lot better than previously this term. Barry Hills is also (like Weld) in much better form than when the Hamdan horse last ran; held up in a slowly run race behind the more prominently ridden Peacock. Hannon’s has imo the third best chance in the race, but may not have the same scope for further improvement as some and may be short because a Royal runner with a chance of winning is often put in short. Can see Disegno getting placed, but is he the most genuine? I backed him at Newmarket, but opposed the Stoute horse with heavy ground specialist winner Not So Sleepy at Chester. Fact Ryan has plumped for Disegno is a negative for Cape Clear Island‘s chance (he’s been on the AOB horse last four times).

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    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    Peacock will also be suited to a fast pace, he can take a while to get through the gears but he finishes with a stronger kick than a mule. Ascot will suit him, he was all at sea with his legs the last two times at Newmarket and without getting checked would of been right with Golden Horn on the line. My main concern is the way NOT and Ivawood ran below par and although Osalia got Hannon on the board if the other horse had ran straight he would have won. Are they watering the course?

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    Are they watering the course?

    Be surprised if they didn’t Nathan.

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    Avatar photoNathan Hughes
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    I was looking for Good to firm for Peacock and have also got Forgotten Rules.
    Couldn’t they water after Peacock wins.

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    Peacock will also be suited to a fast pace, he can take a while to get through the gears but he finishes with a stronger kick than a mule. Ascot will suit him, he was all at sea with his legs the last two times at Newmarket and without getting checked would of been right with Golden Horn on the line. My main concern is the way NOT and Ivawood ran below par and although Osalia got Hannon on the board if the other horse had ran straight he would have won.

    Agreed, Ascot and a truly run race will suit Peacock, just my opinion he does not have the scope for as much improvement as others. Golden Horn form means little as the Derby winner has improved in leaps and bounds since.

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    #1106136
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    Peacock has also improved huge from his two year days.
    Paco Boy matured late and this one reminds me of him albeit a 10f horse, I still think he has room to progress he hasn’t been over ran for a Hannon horse. If Golden Horn improved 10 lengths than Peacock would of been 3rd in the Dante not bad form.

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    Time Test will be streets too good for these

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    Time Test had a very eye catching turn of foot, but those in behind look dubious. Dissolution contesting class 2 12f 535 tomorrow, Dutch Uncle more than 5 lengths behind Stravagante next time.
    Azraff dropping down to a listed mile tomorrow. If you put Peacock and Disegno in that same race I believe they would have won just as comfortably.
    The difference here is Time Test is 9/4 and the other two offer each way value. I couldn’t tell you the winner though, it should be a cracker.

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    Time Test to improve and take the legs off this lot.

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    Time Test, very nice. easy. More money will come piling in for that Dissolution now.

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    That Hughes assured me Peacock would win :scratch:

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