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Got in an hour ago from manning a picket line at the office at which I work, followed by a rally.
I had too chuckle as the teacher were on strike for the first time in a decade, baring in mind that my department has taken 21 days in the last few years.
Civil servants dont cause inflation by being paid a living wage ( some are paid barley 25p above the minimum wage), we suffer from it. Olus we deal with the **** that society creates.
We have been on strike three times in the last year at HMRC no one takes a blind bit of notice.
Just wrote to Frank Field to tell him what I think of him cowering away from the vote on Monday i lost £11.50 in my wage.
my daughter is a teacher in a secondary school; she is usually marking books till 9.30 at night, has Friday night and Saturday off, and is back marking on Sunday. Holidays are usually spent doing lesson plans. There’s also the abuse from pupils and their parents. I think everyone who jokes about teachers having great holidays should try doing it for a week or so…she’s also still paying off her student loan…..if she’d trained as a lawyer or gone into sales and marketing she’d probably be earning twice what she’s on now….
You don’t need to convince me of the teacher’s lot, Moe, having seen mum forfeit all her evenings and weekends – plus more or less all of these six week breaks which are really breaks in name only – for the benefit of the terminally ungrateful in an Oldham comprehensive for 23 years.
Our family has always regarded health and education as sacrosanct, and supports the pay demands of those involved in the upkeep of either with little or no reservation.
gc
Adoptive father of two. The patron saint of lower-grade fare. A gently critical friend of point-to-pointing. Kindness is a political act.
Best job in the country .. what is it, 30 weeks a year, 28 hours a week. If they dont like it bring the Poles in.
Not sure which teaching posts you’re basing that summation on, Dave – as was made clear in mine and Moe’s posts, a 30-week a year job it emphatically isn’t.
gc
Adoptive father of two. The patron saint of lower-grade fare. A gently critical friend of point-to-pointing. Kindness is a political act.
Then why don’t you become one then Dave? I can only assume your’e having a bit of a laugh with those comments
I am a teacher but chose to teach in a posh prep school. I never complain about it. It’s what I chose to do. Where I chose to be. I spent 6 years in state schools.It was ok. I don’t have much to complain about, only some very demanding parents who think forking out 11,000 quid a year gives them an excuse to treat you like sh*t. But in life, that is how it goes no matter what you do (mostly). I really admire people who teach in state schools, particularly secondary. It’s a tough job. Really tough and the demands are far higher than I will experience. It does get on my nerves a little when teachers keep on moaning though. If you can’t stand the heat…..teach in a posh school.I have great sympathy with teachers; tough job. It would drive me up the wall having to deal with the youth of today AND their parent(s)!.
Having said that, theirs is not the only profession where further work outside of "office" hours is required: surely teachers know that when they choose this career?
I couldn’t tell you if a teacher’s renumeration is fair or not (including the pension side of things). Is the NUT just a more militant teaching union with a leadership intent on confrontation whatever the pay and conditions?
Many teachers feel that, as a member of a particular union, they must vote for and come out on strike if the union recommends it. But what if the union leadership is just sh*t- stirring?
If a union recommended members should stick their heads in a gas oven would they do it? Perhaps the spirit of Arthur Scargill lives on in the NUT.Not sure which teaching posts you’re basing that summation on, Dave – as was made clear in mine and Moe’s posts, a 30-week a year job it emphatically isn’t.
gc
Aye .. the wife’s maybe.
Auther Skargills union were secretly funded by gadafi, we sure as hell are not.
As for as I could tell the strike in at my own office was supported, mamagement said that thing were hardly effected, thats utter bollucks, I saw a huge mound of unopened post, as non of my collgoues had been in and non of the strike breakers had touched in i can only assum that it was clearly not covered….. They shipped into jobcentres management grade staff, too give you a flavour thats staff who are on at least 50k a year doing the work of 14-20k per staff…
Some court service staff start at less than 12k per year and deal with some of the most vunerble people, IE children whop have been molsted by their own grandfathers… They do a sterling job in often difficult curstances.
So for our tory and countryside alliance friends out their, please stop hurling stones at us pencil pushers, remeber without us the country would collapse. They have tried too get the private sector too do out jobs and they faield, badly.
Hi Yorkshire Pudding. Let me start by saying that I don’t normally bother to point out spelling mistakes and the like on the internet – no one expects proof read comments. But it concerns me that a civil servant doesn’t know the difference between "too" and "to".
Don’t tell me you’re a teacher?I am not a teacher, merely bottom grade pencil pusher, having worked around my department ranging from dealing directly with the public ( the good the bad and down right nasty) too workin in the back offices.
Theirs allot of managment waste, ask your MP why their is a pay bargining unit for each government agency and sub agency yet many of the lower grades do similar job but are paid different rates and cannot be given lateral moves too fill vacancies to other departments without apply for a post. Cut this lunacy you save a fortune with out compramising services.
As for my spelling, I am dyslexic, the civil service is full of people who private industry wont touch, thus they hire less than perfect ones.
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