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No bother. On the floor on which I work we have several staff who are covered by the disabilties discrimintion act, ranging crones disease, though to mental helath issues, a colligoue in a wheel chair ( he could easily be on benifits instead of helping proccess them). We employ allot of people with young familues for whom comercal jobs companies cannot offer the hours which they can work and raise a family without being hammered in child care costs.
You name it, we have them on our roster, exnuns, gays, lesibans,giants, most religouse denominations, your country is being kept afloat by people who drifted into the civil service and have yet too leave…I support the strike too, even though I think teaching is a bit of a joke, for obvious reasons. Every covil servant should get the same pay rises, pensions and holidays as MP’s and QC’s, they are all civil servants and they should all get the same deal.
Were teachers in my family (mum and sister./..sadly passed on). Always banging on about the hours and marking etc. But always seemed to watch every teatime soap opera too….
And couldnt understand why, when i went on holiday, it was only for a week at a time
Wouldnt deny its a tough job but like many martyrs (in all industries), i woudl take some of the "worked all my summer holiday" tales with a big pinch of salt
YP – Hope you weren’t offended by my commemnt re. your spelling. My apologies if you were. Keep your posts coming on both here and the racing forum.
No bother at all, i ddint take offense as you did not know the the full facts, so don’t worry but thanks for the apology, its greatully recived and fully accepted.
You should save this thread yorkshire, with the apology on it, you probably wont get another one ..
I get offended on this forum everyday with the limp wristed censorship, crawling and whatnot, but no-one apologises to me. Do they? No!!
Dave, from the bottom of my heart, I am genuinely sorry for your hurt (and not in a limp-wristed way). I hope in the weeks ahead, you can come to terms with what has happened to you on this forum and perhaps maybe one day, you might even write a book about it….’TRF – my years of Hell’.
I should add a sad face here but I wouldn’t be surprised, knowing how this forum works, if it wasn’t replaced with a sneering, mocking smiley
I knew it
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Peter Harvey is being questioned by police over ‘an incident’. Seems he ‘lost the plot’ and went for the boy after the boy had sworn at him.
Now, I can’t justify such behaviour from a teacher but he must have been been wound up something rotten. If the boy in question was trying to see how much this man could take, he knows now.
I have read nothing but positive comments from former pupils and parents about how out of character this all was, which makes me think this kid got what was coming. Don’t know enough fact but I can’t help thinking this.
TBH I’m surprised more of this doesn’t go on in schools and we don’t read things like this most weeks. Very sad.
I hope this opens up a debate on what happens in classrooms. Kids have no respect for authority these days and think they can taunt teachers as much as they like, and nothing will come of it. If this can happen in a Roman Catholic school with, what appears to be small class sizes I can’t imagine what it’s like in other schools…my daughter is a teacher and I have long feared for her safety. I feel terribly sorry for all people concerned in this case, and hope the boy makes a full recovery, but just as sorry for the teacher, whose life has also been ruined.
Obviously I can’t condone what he did but this sounds a really sad, tragic story.
I suspect a large number of teachers will be thinking "thaere but the grace of God …….."
Obviously the full story will eventually come out and lets hope lessons are learned and some good comes out of what happened.
I have just got back from the newsagents, about 500 yards from home. On my way back I passed a group of the local out of control kids. Without any warning at all, I had a bucket of water thrown at me ( should have been more alert as I’d seen a woman walking past me just outside newsagents, all wet). On turning round I got a torrent of four letter words and hand language.
When are we going to get some discipline back in schools, and how did we get to the situation when you can’t do or say anything to them or you end up in the wrong.
Cane – bring it back, and use it, not only on kids but on parents who don’t control their kids.
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It was only water at the end of the day, I can tell you don’t live anywhere rough or you’d probally got a knife held to you rather than a drenching.
Theres nothing you can do especially if you look vulnerable, maybe you should take karate lessons or something?
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/nott … 643553.stmTeacher Peter Harvey ‘beat pupil while shouting die’
Peter Harvey denies a charge of attempted murder in July 2009
A science teacher beat a pupil around the head with a dumbbell while shouting "die, die, die", a court heard.Peter Harvey, 50, hit the 14-year-old boy with a 3kg weight at All Saints’ Roman Catholic School, Mansfield, a jury heard.
He denies attempted murder and causing grievous bodily harm (GBH) with intent, but has admitted a charge of GBH.
Nottingham Crown Court was told students were filmed calling Mr Harvey a "psycho" moments before the attack.
Another pupil was filming as Mr Harvey tried to restore discipline.
The injured schoolboy, whom Mr Harvey confronted for misbehaving in class, suffered a fractured skull and bleeding on the brain.
….a tad too much some people might say.
I don’t thinking hitting young people is the answer to all this, somehow, and I’m not sure which teachers should be the ones to do it [certainly not my daughter]. Having said that I’d be pretty brassed off if someone threw water over me; pretty disgusting thing to do imo. Not sure what the answer is and don’t understand why some people think they can behave in such a way.
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