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As easy a Group 1 winner as you’ll see. Cutlass Bay was a massive flop, and Recharge and Chinese White looked to run their races. Couldn’t have gone much more smoothly for Fame And Glory, very impressive.
That must be the easiest race that Fame And Glory has had to run, seriously routed them. Although it would be true to say the oppostion was not very good.
Should win the Coronation Cup.
Compare how he was ridden today with how he was ridden in the Irish Champion Stakes.
I maintain Fame and Glory is a slow horse with no turn of foot and will get found out against proper opposition.
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Hard to disagree with that Z but he was a helluva price against some real moderate opposition today.
AOB is doing the right thing running him twice already this season as he must realise his limitations.
I would reckon the King George and the Arc might be on his agenda but unless this crop is below average he’ll be hard pushed to maintain his winning ways.
Fame and Glory seemed to travel better than ever today over his minimum trip. I was a little surprised with the ease he hacked over the rest. Obviously Cutless Bay has been potentially ruined after that and prob wont ever be the same horse. What a shocking display that was.
Should win with in a few weeks at Epsom. Sariska to fall away at the business end when she has a decent animal to chase on fast ground. Was impressed today even if it turned out to be a "canter" over inferior opposition.
1st in Irish derby, 2nd in English, 6th in Ark. "A slow horse with no turn of foot".Interesting.
When will people wake up and realise that F&G is not some slowboat horse and is not a rubbish horse. Had nothing to beat but cantered all over then today and will be hard to beat in Cornation Cup and other races.
What are people basing their criticism on??
Aye, it looks the kind of desperate 10f gp1 FAG might just scrape home in – still wouldn’t make him a 10f horse though, TAPK.
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When he beats serious 10f Group one horses, I will be convinced, he beat Recharge again!
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What are people basing their criticism on??
Mostly it’s not being able to read form correctly. Winning mundane races easily always looks easier on the eye than top class efforts in defeat. If STS hadn’t been around last year both RPW and F&G would be recognised as champions. Forget about the opposition today, at Leopardstown Fame ran to well over 130+ and will be a force this year in any race he takes part in.
1st in Irish derby, 2nd in English, 6th in Ark. "A slow horse with no turn of foot".Interesting.
Take Sea The Stars out of the Derby. What are you left with apart from non-stayers and slow horses? It was a truly horrendous race.
What is there left to say…
Except why did the powers to be at Godolphin not realize beforehand that this was a race (only given any credibility by ‘Cutlass’ turning up) where they stood to lose more than they would gain – with the aforementioned knowledge about his most probable dislike of going?!
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Aye, it looks the kind of desperate 10f gp1 FAG might just scrape home in – still wouldn’t make him a 10f horse though, TAPK.
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Start knitting Reet! I"ll stick to sticking up the "Pearlers"!
Have it your own way Gord, though giving a 107 rated horse a 10/12lb beating hardly makes him Pegasus now, does it?
As predicted, AOB found the weakest 10f gp1 you could possibly imagine, (made all the more desperate by the late defection of Glass Harmonium) and set the race up with a strong pace. Whether he’ll be able to do the same against proper gp1 horses remains open to considerable doubt.Just wondering, who are these "proper 10f Group 1 horses".
Can anyone name five for me that FAG will have to topple?!
i guess he means the good horses he hasnt ran against yet, the other contenders for the arc.
all in all to be fair, it hasnt raced against anything that has pushed it yet, so i think 9/4 for the coronation is a nice little bet. still not convinced sariska favours gd to fm.
i think one of the only dangers this season to FaG is presvis, if it gets a nice draw, and everything goes ok, so it can run its race.
does anyone know where i can get antepost prices for these races like the prince of wales?
Just wondering, who are these "proper 10f Group 1 horses".
Can anyone name five for me that FAG will have to topple?!
That’s an excellent point, thm. I was thinking the same thing when I read such comments.
Looking at the top 12f contests from last season, I can think of only four horses that are capable of beating Fame And Glory over this distance: Sariska, Dar Re Mi and Spanish Moon. Mawatheeq has the potential to be a real force at the top level, but I can’t see Ballydoyle quaking in their boots about any of the aforementioned quartet – they’re not exactly Sea The Star or Conduit.
Can you imagine what Sea The Stars would have done in this years Derby if he had been born twelve months later? I couldn’t see any of them getting within 5L of him (and that’s being kind).
Fame And Glory should not be too far away in any of the top 12f contests this season.
He will still be vulnerable over 10f, particularly in the latter half of the season. Twice Over, Vision D’Etat and Rip Van Winkle are all capable of beating him and you would expect a couple of classy 3YOs, particularly those stepping up in trip, to have too much toe for him.
This horse has done very little wrong in his career – he was very unlucky to meet such an exceptional talent in Sea The Stars as a 3YO. He has now won a Group 1 contest for three consecutive years and can boast a classic to his name.
What do his detractors expect – the horse to win a July Cup or a Sussex Stakes? He has done what he was bred to do.
To call him slow is pure ignorance and just plain wrong.
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